Finding the Inverse Laplace Transform of (4s^2+2)/(s^3+6s-20)

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The discussion revolves around finding the inverse Laplace transform of the expression (4s^2+2)/(s^3+6s-20). Participants are exploring techniques related to partial fraction decomposition and the application of inverse transforms.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to rewrite the expression using partial fractions and is uncertain about applying shifts in the Laplace transform. They express confusion about how to derive the expected answer from their current work.
  • Some participants suggest separating the numerator to facilitate finding the inverse transform and question how to incorporate sine and cosine terms correctly.
  • Others express uncertainty about specific transformations and the manipulation of terms, particularly regarding the coefficients in the inverse Laplace expressions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various approaches and expressing confusion about specific steps. Some guidance has been provided regarding separating terms in the numerator, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct path forward.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing information regarding the application of inverse Laplace transforms and the manipulation of terms, as well as a general lack of clarity on how to handle specific coefficients in the expressions being discussed.

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Homework Statement


(4s^2+2)/(s^3+6s-20)


The Attempt at a Solution


ok from an earlier question, i used partial frac, to re write it as (1/(s-2))+((3s+4)/(s^2+2s+10))
which i can re write to, by completing square to (1/(s-2))+((3s+4)/((s+1)^2+9))

now i think I've done all that ok.. so my inv laplace is:

e^(2t)+invlaplace((3s+4)/((s+1)^2+9))...

now I am not completely sure on how to use s and t shifts properly(i just started this stuff today), and I am quite unsure what to do from now but the answer should be
e^(2t)+(1/3)e^(-t)(9cos(3t)+sin(3t)) and i have no idea how to get that from that... what happens to the 4?? can anyone help please
 
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i could do..
e^(2t)+(1/3)e^(-t)invlaplace((9s+12)/(s^2+9)) but in my examples i have no idea.. how to get cos and sin inside the invlaplace brackets.. coz then i would need to
e^(2t)+(1/3)e^(-t)invlaplace(9s/(s^2+9)... which would get me 9cos(3t) but then the sin...something but then i have a 12 and would need to subtract 9 to get to 3?.. idk I am confused...
 
please anyone?
 
anyone know wat to do?
 
?
 
surely someone knows how to do this
 
cmon please someone help
 
Every ten minutes you complain that people are not answering you? We are not sitting here waiting for some to post a question that we will answer immediately! Have patience.

To find an inverse transform of [tex]\frac{3s+4}{(s+1)^2+ 9}[/tex], separate the two parts of the numerator: write it as
[tex]3\frac{s}{(s+1)^2+ 9}+ 4\frac{1}{(s+1)^2+ 9}[/tex]
You should be able to find both of those in any table of Laplace transforms.
 
  • #10
ok thankyou very much.. and sorry won't happen again.
 
  • #11
ok i know what you said to do is right, but i still don't quite understand, form what I've learnt. i have e^(2*t)+invlaplace(3*s/((s+1)^2+9)+4/((s+1)^2+9))
=e^(2 t)+(3e^(-t)*invlaplace(s/(s^(2)+9))+4e^(-t)*invlaplace(1/(s^(2)+9))
=e^(2*t)+3*e^(-t)*cos(3*t)+(4/3)*invlaplace(3/(s^2+9))
=e^(2*t)+3*e^(-t)*cos(3*t)+(4*e^(-t)*1/3)*sin(3*t)
im pretty sure this is wrong... please can u tell me where stuffing up
 
  • #12
i have no idea how the 4... turns into a 9...
 
  • #13
ok its the (3*s/(s+1)^2+9) bit I am stuffing up... i know its 3e^-t*cos(3t) but i think there also has to be a -sin(3t) somewhere... but where does it come from?
 
  • #14
please someone?
 
  • #15
omg did sleep thinking actually help is 3s/(s+1)^2+9=e^(-t)(3cos(3t)-sin(t) because i need 3s+1 on top so i subtract 1. then its

3*(s+1)/((s+1)^2+9)-(1/3)(3/(s+1)^2+9)? coz i think that works
 
  • #16
nope... I am close i think.. tho
 
  • #17
back in couple of hrs, feel free to help = )
 
  • #18
ok back i been thinking again and is it..
invlaplace((3(s+1))/(s+1)^2+9)-3/(s+1)^2+9))?
then it would be e^(-t)3cos(3t)-e^(-t)sin(st)

so then + (4/3)sin(3t) would be

e^(-t)3cos(3t)+e^(-t)(1/3)sin(3t)
=(1/3)e^(-t)(9cos(3t)+sin(3t) yes i think that is right, please can someone confirm?
 
  • #19
dang...
 
  • #20
nope its right lol
 

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