Finding the inverse of a function?

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the inverse of a function, specifically (f^-1)'(a) where a = 2, for the function f(x) = √(x^3 + x^2 + x + 1). Participants are exploring the relationship between the function and its inverse, as well as the necessary differentiation techniques involved.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need to differentiate the function and relate it to the inverse. There is confusion about the initial steps, particularly regarding the value of f(x) that equals 2 and the relevance of finding the derivative of the inverse.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the formula for the derivative of the inverse function, while others are questioning the relevance of certain steps. There is an ongoing exploration of the differentiation process and its implications for finding the desired derivative.

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Participants express uncertainty about the initial approach and the specific requirements of the problem, indicating a need for clarity on the differentiation rules and their application in this context.

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Finding the inverse of a function?

Homework Statement



Find (f^-1)'(a), a =2

√(x^3 + x^2 +x +1)

So, if a = 2, then f^-1(2) = 1 and f(1) = 2



Homework Equations







The Attempt at a Solution



I figured out that f(1) = 2,

so

√(3(1)^2 + 2(1) + 1)

= √6

so the final answer I got was 1/√(6)

?
 
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nukeman said:

Homework Statement



Find (f^-1)'(a), a =2

√(x^3 + x^2 +x +1)

So, if a = 2, then f^-1(2) = 1 and f(1) = 2

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



I figured out that f(1) = 2,

so

√(3(1)^2 + 2(1) + 1)

= √6

so the final answer I got was 1/√(6)

?

They are not asking for f-1(2) -- you need to get (f-1)'[/color](2).

Start by differentiating each side with respect to x to eventually end up with y = (f-1)'(x).
 


I don't understand. What is the first thing I do?

Would it be to figure out what value of f(x) would equal 2?

In this case, 1 would correct?
 


nukeman said:
I don't understand. What is the first thing I do?

Would it be to figure out what value of f(x) would equal 2?

In this case, 1 would correct?

I don't think this is relevant in this problem. They are asking you about the derivative of the inverse, not the inverse.
 


Mark44 said:
I don't think this is relevant in this problem. They are asking you about the derivative of the inverse, not the inverse.

He's trying to use [itex](f^{-1})'(a)=\frac{1}{f'(f^{-1}(a))}[/itex].
 


Correct, I am
 


nukeman said:
Correct, I am

So then [itex](f^{-1})'(2)=\frac{1}{f'(f^{-1}(2))}=\frac{1}{f'(1)}=\ldots[/itex]

Find [itex]f'(1)[/itex] and you're done.

Edit: I now see where you tried to do this. Maybe take your time with that derivative. You need to use the power rule and the chain rule.

P.S. I reckon [itex](f^{-1})'(a)=\frac{1}{f'(f^{-1}(a))}[/itex] is a fairly relevant equation here. Probably should have put that in the first post. You can't assume that tutors remember everything from their undergrad (maybe even high school) calc course.
 


I don't understand how the answer is 2/3 :(
 


Three questions:

1) What is the derivative (with respect to [itex]x[/itex]) of [itex]\sqrt{x}[/itex]? (hint: you need the power rule)

2) Assuming [itex]u[/itex] is a differentiable function of [itex]x[/itex], what is the derivative with respect to [itex]x[/itex] of [itex]\sqrt{u}[/itex]? (hint: you need the chain rule)

3) What is the derivative of [itex]\sqrt{x^3 + x^2 +x +1}[/itex]? (hint: let [itex]u=x^3 + x^2 +x +1[/itex] and use part 2)
 
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nukeman said:
I don't understand how the answer is 2/3 :(

Maybe that's because you haven't worked out what f' is. Do that and then figure out what 1/f'(1) is.
 

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