Finding the Limit of (tan x/x)^{1/x^2}: Strategies and Tips

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the expression (tan x/x)^{1/x^2} as x approaches 0. Participants are exploring various methods to tackle this limit, including L'Hospital's rule and the squeeze theorem, while also addressing the complexities involved in applying these techniques.

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  • Some participants suggest using L'Hospital's rule after taking the natural logarithm of the limit, while others express concerns about the applicability of this rule in the context of the problem. There are discussions about the correct interpretation of the limit and the potential use of Taylor series as an alternative approach.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and corrections regarding the application of L'Hospital's rule and the structure of the limit. There is a recognition of mistakes in earlier posts, and some participants are considering different strategies to clarify their understanding.

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How do I find the following limit?

[itex]lim_{x\rightarrow 0} (\frac{\tan x}{x})^{1/x^2}[/itex]

L'Hospital's rule gets really messy, and I cannot find a suitable
choice of functions to apply the squeeze theorem. Does anyone
have any suggestions? Thank you.
 
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Compute the natural logarithm of the limit with the help of l'Ho^pital's rule.
 
dextercioby said:
Compute the natural logarithm of the limit with the help of l'Ho^pital's rule.

Thank you. That makes life so much easier. I forgot about that little trick.
I got the answer.
 
namu said:
How do I find the following limit?

[itex]lim_{x\rightarrow 0} (\frac{\tan x}{x})^{1/x^2}[/itex]

L'Hospital's rule gets really messy
It shouldn't, because L'Hopital's Rule doesn't apply here. It applies to quotients of functions -- f(x)/g(x) -- where both functions are approaching zero or both are approaching infinity.

And you can't simply use L'Hopital's Rule on the part being raised to the power, because the limit variable occurs in the exponent.
namu said:
, and I cannot find a suitable
choice of functions to apply the squeeze theorem. Does anyone
have any suggestions? Thank you.
 
Mark44 said:
It shouldn't, because L'Hopital's Rule doesn't apply here. It applies to quotients of functions -- f(x)/g(x) -- where both functions are approaching zero or both are approaching infinity.

And you can't simply use L'Hopital's Rule on the part being raised to the power, because the limit variable occurs in the exponent.

That's true, so we have

[itex] \stackrel{lim}{x \to 0} \frac{\tan x}{x}^{1/x^2}= e^{\stackrel{lim}{x \to 0}\frac{ln \frac{\tan x}{x}}{\frac{1}{x^2} }}[/itex]

Now,

[itex] \stackrel{lim}{x \to 0} \frac{\tan x}{x}=1[/itex]

hence,
[itex] ln 1=0[/itex]

and

[itex] \stackrel{lim}{x \to 0} \frac{1}{x^2}=0[/itex]

Therefore we can use l'Hospital's Rule here with [itex]f=ln \frac{\tan x}{x}[/itex] and [itex]g=1/x^2[/itex]
 
What you wrote is pretty hard to read and comprehend, so I can't tell if you're on the right track, plus some of what you wrote is just wrong.

[tex]\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{1}{x^2} \neq 0![/tex]

When you work this problem, don't include the limit until you're ready to take the limit.

Write y = (tan(x)/x)^(1/x^2)
Now take ln of both sides, and you'll have a quotient.
Take the limit of ln y and of what you have on the right, and use L'Hopital's Rule on that. This is what dextercioby was saying.

Keep in mind that the limit you'll get is the limit of the ln of something, so you'll need to adjust for that.

LaTeX tips
1) For complicated fractions, use [ tex ] tags instead of [ itex ] tags.
2) For limits, don't use \stackrel -- use \lim, like this:
[ tex ]\lim_{x \to {\infty}\frac{f(x)}{g(x)}[ /tex ]
 
Thank you very much for the LaTeX tips. Sorry, I'm new to PF and was not aware that tex can be used. Oh I see, the i in itex stands for inline instead of the usual $. That explains a lot. Also, I made a mistake when quickly typing this up, so yes, there is a mistake.

The correct response should be

[tex]\lim_{x \to {\infty}} \left ( \frac{\tan x}{x} \right ) ^{1/x^2}=e^{\lim_{x \to {\infty}} \frac{1}{x^2} ln \frac{\tan x}{x} }[/tex]

So,

[tex]f(x)=ln \frac{\tan x}{x}[/tex]
[tex]g(x)=x^2[/tex]

Now [itex]f(x) \to 0[/itex] and [itex]g(x) \to 0[/itex]
 
namu said:
Thank you very much for the LaTeX tips. Sorry, I'm new to PF and was not aware that tex can be used. Oh I see, the i in itex stands for inline instead of the usual $. That explains a lot. Also, I made a mistake when quickly typing this up, so yes, there is a mistake.

The correct response should be

[tex]\lim_{x \to {\infty}} \left ( \frac{\tan x}{x} \right ) ^{1/x^2}=e^{\lim_{x \to {\infty}} \frac{1}{x^2} ln \frac{\tan x}{x} }[/tex]

So,

[tex]f(x)=ln \frac{\tan x}{x}[/tex]
[tex]g(x)=x^2[/tex]

Now [itex]f(x) \to 0[/itex] and [itex]g(x) \to 0[/itex]

Ok, so now you have a 0/0 limit. What do you get for the limit using l'Hopital? This whole thing is probably worked out easier using taylor series, if you know that approach.
 
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