Finding the Mirror Shape for Focusing Light: What's the Next Step?

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The discussion revolves around determining the shape of a mirror that focuses light at a specific point, denoted as x_0. The original poster presents an equation derived under the assumption that light rays are parallel to the x-axis, indicating a scenario involving optics and reflective surfaces.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the derivation of an equation for the mirror's shape and discuss simplifications using trigonometric identities. Questions arise regarding the feasibility of solving the resulting equations and the implications of arbitrary constants in the solutions.

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Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical manipulations of the equations, while others express uncertainty about the next steps and the implications of the derived solutions. There is recognition of the need for further exploration of the constants involved and the nature of the function being defined.

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Participants note that the information provided does not allow for the determination of certain constants, and there is an emphasis on the requirement for the function to be single-valued. The focus of the discussion remains on the mathematical formulation rather than reaching a definitive conclusion.

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i'm trying to find a mirror shape which focuses a light at some specific point [itex]x_0[/itex]
the initial equation i derived for determining the shape of the mirror is:
(assuming that light rays fall parallel to x-axis - light source is very far from the mirror)
f(x) is the shape I'm trying to determine

[tex] x_0=-\frac{f(x)-\tan(2\arctan(\frac{df}{dx}))x}{\tan(2\arctan(\frac{df}{dx}))}[/tex]

basically this is an expression for a line passing through point [itex]x_0[/itex] and point on
f(x) where light reflected.
so [itex]\tan(2\arctan(\frac{df}{dx}))[/itex] is a incline of this line


from the initial equation i got to this point and I'm not sure what to do next::confused:

[tex] \frac{f(x)}{x-x_0}=\tan(2\arctan(\frac{df}{dx}))[/tex]
 
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ok, i took the formula
[tex] \tan(a+b)=\frac{\tan(a)+\tan(b)}{1-\tan(a)\tan(b)}[/tex]

using this formula i can simplify the equation to become:

[tex] \frac{2\frac{df}{dx}}{1-{(\frac{df}{dx})}^2}=\frac{f(x)}{x-x_0}[/tex]

is it possible to solve it?
 
i get [itex]f = \pm \sqrt{ (x+c)^2 - (x-x_0)^2 }[/itex] as
a solution. (where c is an arbitrary constant, hopefully
not the same as -x0.)
 
qbert said:
i get [itex]f = \pm \sqrt{ (x+c)^2 - (x-x_0)^2 }[/itex] as
a solution. (where c is an arbitrary constant, hopefully
not the same as -x0.)

Well, I'm impressed with what you have done so far!
I assume you mean the light is focussed at the point (x0,0).

You might as well multiply out the terms in the square root:
[tex]f(x)= \sqrt{x^2+ 2cx+ c^2- x^2+2x_0x- x_0^2}[/tex]

You can't determine c from the information given: any parabola with focus at (x0,0) will focus light as required.
And don't write [itex]f(x)= \pm \sqrt{...}[/itex]. A function is single valued. You can, of course, write x as a function of y.
 

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