Finding the Net Force in Two-Dimensional Motion

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the net force exerted by three students pushing a box at various angles and magnitudes. The subject area pertains to two-dimensional motion and vector addition using trigonometric principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method of breaking down forces into their x and y components and the appropriate use of trigonometric functions. There is uncertainty about the correct application of the Pythagorean theorem and the angles used in calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with each other's attempts, providing suggestions for corrections and clarifications. There is a recognition of errors in the original calculations, and some guidance has been offered regarding the proper use of angles and component calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication of confusion regarding the calculations and the application of trigonometric functions, as well as the need for careful consideration of rounding in the final results. Participants express frustration with the complexity of the problem despite its initial appearance of simplicity.

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Homework Statement


Three students push a box. Michael pushes with a force of 200 N at 0 degree. Shannon exerts a force of 150 N at 30 degrees, and Adam pushes with 175 N at 145 degrees. What is the magnitude of the net force?


Homework Equations


Some trig nothing special

The Attempt at a Solution


X Axis
200+(cos30*150)=329.9N [E]
cos45*175=123.7N [W]
329.9-120=209.9N [E]
Y Axis
sin30*150=75N [N]
sin45*175=123.7 [N]
75+123.7=198.7 [N]

209.9+198.7= 408.6N
I am not sure if i did it right at all...i am self taught to any help is appreciated thanks in advance
 
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When splitting the forces into components, you can't simply add the two together. You have to use the Pythagorean theorem.
 
kk if i do that i end up with 289N which is still wrong
im not sure where i went wrong
 
Well, at this part "329.9-120=209.9N [E]" I'm not quite sure where the 120 came from. You should be subtracting 175Ncos(180-145). As for the Y axis, at "sin45*175=123.7 [N]", you should be using 35 instead of 45.
 
K i don't know why I'm having such difficulty with a question that seemed so easy at first =/
Here is what i have after your suggestions

X Axis
200+(cos30*150)=329.9N (pretty sure you don't round until the end)
cos35*175= 143N
329.9-143=186.9
Y Axis
sin35*175=100N
sin30(150)=75N
100+75=175N
Hit it with some Pythagorean
and you get 256N

Thank you for your help:)
 

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