Finding the normal modes for a oscillating system

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The discussion focuses on finding the normal modes of a system consisting of two masses connected by springs, with specific spring constants. The user attempts to derive solutions for normal modes using the Lagrangian approach but struggles with the eigenvalues and eigenvectors. They explore different forms for the normal mode solutions but find them unhelpful, and express frustration with the complexity of the eigenvalue calculations. The conversation highlights the challenges of applying the Lagrangian method and suggests that while other methods might exist, they are not well-known to the user. The thread concludes with a request for assistance in simplifying the problem and verifying results.
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Homework Statement


The system is conformed by two blocks with masses m (on the left) and M (on the right), and two springs on the left/right has the spring constant of k. The middle spring has a spring constant of 4k. Friction and air resistance can be ignored. All springs are massless.
Find the normal modes.
Diagram:
|~m~~~~M~|

Homework Equations


##L = T-V ##[/B]
##T = \frac{1}{2}(m\dot{x}_1^2 + M\dot{x}_2^2) ##
##V = \frac{1}{2}[(x_1^2 + x_2^2) + 4(x_1-x_2)^2]##
##\frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{x_k}} - \frac{d}{dt} \frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{\dot{x_k}}} = 0##
##[A_{ij} - \omega^2 m_{ij}]=0##

The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried to guess a solution for the normal modes but of the for ##\eta_1 = x_1 - x_2 ## and ##\eta_2= x_1+x_2## but I does not works. I have tried to add some arbitrary coefficient to ##\eta_1## & ## \eta_2## unsuccessfully. Trying to find the eigenvectors is a pain in the neck since the eigenfrequencies are:##\omega^2 = \frac{5k(M+m) \pm k\sqrt{25(M^2+m^2) -14Mm}}{2Mm}##.
I read in a textbook that one could find the coefficient for the etas by knowing that the ratios ##\frac{M_{11}}{M_{22}}=\frac{A_{11}}{A_{22}}=\alpha^2## but for this case the first ratio is ##\frac{m}{M}## and the second is 1 .Therefore, this method doesn't help me :/.

I would appreciate any contribution. Thank you.
 
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Do you have to solve this problem using the Lagrangian?
 
The Lagragian is not necessary, but is the only method I know. I believe that if I use forces the problem would complicate more.
 
I think the force method is easier but the results are the same.

I get a slightly different answer for the Eigen values but even then I think you could probably simplify it a little bit:
ω2 = k(1/M+1/m) [5/2± √(25/4+16/(M/m+m/M+2))]

I am not aware of any other method except plugging the Eigen values into the equations of motion and solving for the mode shapes.
 
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