Finding the Perfect Self-Study Book for Intro Stats & Quantum Mechanics

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The discussion revolves around finding suitable self-study books for introductory statistical mechanics and quantum mechanics. Participants share their mathematical backgrounds and previous self-study experiences, seeking recommendations for texts that align with their current knowledge and learning preferences.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests suggestions for self-study books in statistical mechanics and quantum mechanics, noting their background in multivariate calculus, vector calculus, linear algebra, and complex analysis.
  • Several participants recommend "Quantum Mechanics: A Paradigms Approach" by McIntyre and "A Modern Approach to Quantum Mechanics" by Townsend.
  • Another participant suggests "Modern Quantum Mechanics" by J. J. Sakurai and S. Tuan, while cautioning against the newer edition's chapter on relativistic quantum mechanics for beginners.
  • For statistical mechanics, "Course of Theoretical Physics Volume V" by L. D. Landau and E. M. Lifshitz is mentioned, along with a suggestion to consider "Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics" by Frederick Reif.
  • Concerns are raised about the suitability of some recommended texts for beginners, with one participant expressing apprehension about their complexity.
  • Another participant suggests checking books at a library before purchasing, emphasizing the cost of textbooks.
  • Participants discuss the potential usefulness of additional video lectures or supplementary materials, with some suggesting that they may not be necessary if the participant is familiar with basic linear algebra.
  • There is a discussion about the different editions of Reif's book, with participants clarifying which version is being referenced.
  • One participant mentions "Understanding Quantum Physics" by Michael Morrison as an underrated book, suggesting it alongside other supplementary texts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and differing opinions regarding the suitability of certain texts for beginners. While some recommend specific books, others caution that these may be too advanced for someone new to the subjects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for selecting appropriate materials.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of individual learning preferences and backgrounds, indicating that the effectiveness of a textbook may vary based on prior knowledge and study habits. There is also mention of the financial implications of purchasing textbooks, suggesting a need for careful consideration before making a decision.

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Can you please suggest a good introductory statistical and quantum mechanics book which can be self studied.

My math background :
I've done multivariate calculus, vector calculus, linear algebra ,some complex analysis all at the usual undergraduate level.

The books I've self studied thus far are:

1) Mechanics : Kleppner and Kolenkow
2) Electrodynamics : Griffiths
3)Mathematical method: Boas
4) Classical mechanics : Goldstein ( just finished 4th chapter after so much
labor) -) Quantum mechanics :Griffiths ( I stopped after 2nd chapter, I felt I wanted a little bit more rigorous book that uses bra ket) As you can see I'm lacking in quantum mechanics and statistical mechanics, so with my current background could you please suggest book on quantum mechanics and statistical mechanic which are easier to self study.

Thank you.
 
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Kashmir said:
Can you please suggest a good introductory statistical and quantum mechanics book which can be self studied.

My math background :
I've done multivariate calculus, vector calculus, linear algebra ,some complex analysis all at the usual undergraduate level.

The books I've self studied thus far are:

1) Mechanics : Kleppner and Kolenkow
2) Electrodynamics : Griffiths
3)Mathematical method: Boas
4) Classical mechanics : Goldstein ( just finished 4th chapter after so much
labor)-) Quantum mechanics :Griffiths ( I stopped after 2nd chapter, I felt I wanted a little bit more rigorous book that uses bra ket)As you can see I'm lacking in quantum mechanics and statistical mechanics, so with my current background could you please suggest book on quantum mechanics and statistical mechanic which are easier to self study.

Thank you.
Quantum Mechanics: A Paradigms Approach by McIntyre

A Modern Approach to Quantum Mechanics by Townsend
 
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Kashmir said:
Can you please suggest a good introductory statistical and quantum mechanics book which can be self studied.

My math background :
I've done multivariate calculus, vector calculus, linear algebra ,some complex analysis all at the usual undergraduate level.

The books I've self studied thus far are:

1) Mechanics : Kleppner and Kolenkow
2) Electrodynamics : Griffiths
3)Mathematical method: Boas
4) Classical mechanics : Goldstein ( just finished 4th chapter after so much
labor)-) Quantum mechanics :Griffiths ( I stopped after 2nd chapter, I felt I wanted a little bit more rigorous book that uses bra ket)As you can see I'm lacking in quantum mechanics and statistical mechanics, so with my current background could you please suggest book on quantum mechanics and statistical mechanic which are easier to self study.

Thank you.
Quantum mechanics:
J. J. Sakurai and S. Tuan, Modern Quantum Mechanics,
Addison Wesley (1993).

The newer one coauthored by Napolitano seems to have kept most of the beauty of this one but has added a chapter on so-called "relativistic quantum mechanics", which I recommend NOT to read, because relativsitic QT should be learned as quantum field theory right away. With Sakurai for non-relativistic QT you are well-prepared to do so if you wish (e.g., using Schwartz's or Peskin&Schroeder's textbooks).

Statistical mechanics:
L. D. Landau and E. M. Lifshitz, Course of Theoretical
Physics Volume V, Pergamon Press (1980).
 
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vanhees71 said:
Quantum mechanics:
J. J. Sakurai and S. Tuan, Modern Quantum Mechanics,
Addison Wesley (1993).

The newer one coauthored by Napolitano seems to have kept most of the beauty of this one but has added a chapter on so-called "relativistic quantum mechanics", which I recommend NOT to read, because relativsitic QT should be learned as quantum field theory right away. With Sakurai for non-relativistic QT you are well-prepared to do so if you wish (e.g., using Schwartz's or Peskin&Schroeder's textbooks).

Statistical mechanics:
L. D. Landau and E. M. Lifshitz, Course of Theoretical
Physics Volume V, Pergamon Press (1980).
Thank you for your advice but I'm a bit scared since I've learned on the internet that both of the texts you advise are not suitable for an person first encountering these subjects, or is it that with the background I've mentioned you think I'm good to go with these texts?
 
I'd say so. Of course, it's always good, to check any book, whether it's good for you, e.g., at a library etc. before buying them. After all textbooks are quite expensive :-(.
 
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vanhees71 said:
I'd say so. Of course, it's always good, to check any book, whether it's good for you, e.g., at a library etc. before buying them. After all textbooks are quite expensive :-(.
That's true. I think Knowledge should not cost anything in terms of money, it's above money.
 
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Kashmir said:
Thank you for your advice, is there any additional video lecture or any other material that might help me?
Assuming you know basic linear algebra, you should just start with one of those two books. I do not think you would need additional video lectures. I would start with McIntyre.
 
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smodak said:
Assuming you know basic linear algebra, you should just start with one of those two books. I do not think you would need additional video lectures. I would start with McIntyre.
Yes I've self studied linear algebra from Gilbert strang almost done till Jordan canonical form.
Thank you for pointing me the way.
Happy learning sir :)
 
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Kashmir said:
Any advice on stat mech?
I do not have any specific recommendations on statistical mechanics, hoping others could chime in. I agree with your assesment that Sakurai and Landau, although phenomenal books, may be a little too much for a first encounter.
 
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smodak said:
I do not have any specific recommendations on statistical mechanics, hoping others could chime in.
I liked Reif forty odd years ago. I think it, in conjunction with Landau, might be a good combination (and you should be able to find lots of used copies cheap).
 
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hutchphd said:
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I liked Reif forty odd years ago. I think it, in conjunction with Landau, might be a good combination (and you should be able to find lots of used copies cheap).
Thank you for your comment. Could you please tell me Which reif it is? The Berkeley one or the other one?
 
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https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/fundamentals-of-statistical-and-thermal-physics-mcgraw-hill-series-in-fundamentals-of-physics_frederick-reif/275192/item/4243874/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAy4eNBhCaARIsAFDVtI2UgghEsFkcnAwNSFE3pJ6b_vpFXI0_8rx9zqukmQ9e1gjb43K7LT8aAm_YEALw_wcB#idiq=4243874&edition=2340290
My guess is that the Berkeley one is similar but I've not seen it.
 
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hutchphd said:
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/fundamentals-of-statistical-and-thermal-physics-mcgraw-hill-series-in-fundamentals-of-physics_frederick-reif/275192/item/4243874/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAy4eNBhCaARIsAFDVtI2UgghEsFkcnAwNSFE3pJ6b_vpFXI0_8rx9zqukmQ9e1gjb43K7LT8aAm_YEALw_wcB#idiq=4243874&edition=2340290
My guess is that the Berkeley one is similar but I've not seen it.
Thelink you've shared isn't the Berkeley one.
The Berkeley one is little more basic is that one you meant?
 
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I did not use the Berkeley one. I used the first edition as shown..
 
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That's the "big Reif", which is a very good book on statistical physics and thermodynamics. The Berkeley Physics course volume on statistical physics is the "little Reif" and (at least) as good as the big one. I'd say the former is graduate the latter undergraduate level. I find both very good books on the challenging topic of statistical physics.
 
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