Finding the Period of a Mass Connected to Two Springs in Series

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The problem involves a mass connected to two springs in series, with the goal of determining the period of oscillation for this configuration. The springs have spring constants k₁ and k₂, and the setup is horizontal with the mass resting on the floor.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive an equation of motion but expresses uncertainty due to a lack of knowledge in differential equations. They note the challenge of dealing with the different stretches of the springs and how to relate them to the total displacement.
  • Some participants suggest conceptualizing the two springs as a single equivalent spring to simplify the problem and question the assumption that the force is the same at each junction of the springs.
  • Others clarify that the assumption of equal force at the junctions is valid if the springs are considered massless.

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The discussion is progressing with participants exploring the implications of their assumptions about the forces in the system. Clarifications have been provided regarding the nature of the forces at the junctions, which has helped the original poster gain a clearer understanding of the problem.

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The original poster has indicated that they have not yet learned differential equations, which may limit their approach to solving the problem. There is also a mention of a previous setup that has been resolved, but the current configuration remains a challenge.

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EDIT: I have removed the second setup, since I solved it. I still can't figure out this one though.

A mass m is connected to two springs, with spring constants k_{1} and k_{2}.

The first setup has both springs connected in series, connecting the mass horizontally to the wall, with the mass resting on the floor. Show that the period for this configuration is given by

T=2\pi\sqrt{m(\frac{1}{k_{1}}+\frac{1}{k_{2}})}

Hopefully I described the diagram sufficiently.

The Attempt at a Solution



Not really sure where to start. My first thought was to try and come up with an equation of motion, but honestly we haven't learned differential equations yet, so I don't think that's how I'm supposed to do it. Anyway, I can't seem to get it in terms of x regardless, since each spring presumably stretches a different length. I know that the two lengths will add up to the total displacement of the mass, but that only let's me get rid of one variable. So finding an equation of motion doesn't seem to be working for me. And even if I found it, I don't know how much good it would do me unless it turned out to be a real easy differential equation.

Anyway, this is all I got:

F = -k_{1}x_{1}-k_{2}x_{2}

x_{1}+x_{2} = x
 
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One way of approaching the problem is to ask yourself, if I was to replace the two spring system with a single spring (for which I know how to obtain the period), what should be the spring constant of the single spring?

Hint: The magnitude of force at each junction (wall-spring1, spring1-spring2, spring2-mass) is the same.
 
Well, if I assume the force is the same at each junction, that makes the problem much easier. But how do we know that? Is it because the springs are massless, so the force at one end has to be the same as the force at the other?
 
Yes.
 
Great. That clears it up. Thanks a lot!
 

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