Finding the Point at Which Electric Field from Two Charges Adds to Zero

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The discussion revolves around finding the point where the electric field from two charges, one negative and one positive, sums to zero. The original poster presents an equation derived from the electric field expressions for the two charges but expresses uncertainty about how to manipulate it further.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the setup of the problem, questioning the signs and magnitudes of the charges involved. There is a discussion about the validity of the original equation and its application in different regions (e.g., x < 0, x > d).

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Some participants have provided insights into the algebraic manipulation of the equations, while others have pointed out potential errors in the original setup. The conversation indicates a progression towards understanding the relationships between the variables, though no consensus on a final method has been reached.

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Participants note that the charges are of different signs and magnitudes, which influences the behavior of the electric field in the region between them. There is also mention of specific conditions for the equation's validity based on the position of x relative to the charges.

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Homework Statement



I am trying to find the point at which the electric field from two charges adds to zero and came to the equation (kq)/x^2-(kQ)/(x-d)^2 = 0

Homework Equations



(kq)/x^2-(kQ)/(x-d)^2 = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that (kq)/x^2-(kQ)/(x-d)^2 = 0 is the correct equations but algebraically do not know what to do from here.

Thanks for the help
 
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Are the charges both the same sign?
 
The charge at x = 0 is negative and has magnitude q = 2 mCoulombs. The charge at x = d, (d = +12 cm), is positive and has magnitude Q = 4 mCoulombs.
 
phrygian said:
The charge at x = 0 is negative and has magnitude q = 2 mCoulombs. The charge at x = d, (d = +12 cm), is positive and has magnitude Q = 4 mCoulombs.

Then your equation is already set up wrong, because the field between a positive and a negative is always non-zero at every point in between.

So if it isn't 0 between them it must be 0 somewhere else.
 
I must have typed something wrong but in the help section of the homework it gives me this:

Ex = (1/4peo)*((q/x^2) - (Q/(x-d)^2)) (for x < 0)

Setting this expression equal to zero yields the equation:

x^2*(q-Q) + x*(-2qd) + qd^2 = 0




I am just wondering mathematically how you get from the first equation to the second one because I have no idea...
 
After canceling common factors, that step can be made by cross multiplying from

q/x2 = Q/(x-D)2

But you say they are choosing x<0, but I would note that for x<0 the distance to the other charge is x + D not x - D. This equation would be true for x>D however.
 
Ahaaa I get it now thanks a lot.

And then how do you get to x = d*((q/(q - Q))*(1 +/- sqrt(Q/q))
 
phrygian said:
Ahaaa I get it now thanks a lot.

And then how do you get to x = d*((q/(q - Q))*(1 +/- sqrt(Q/q))

That's the solution for a quadratic equation?

The Quadratic Formula?
 

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