Finding the Point of Intersection: A Simpler Approach

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The discussion revolves around finding the points of intersection for pairs of linear equations. The subject area includes algebra and specifically the manipulation of equations in standard form to slope-intercept form.

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  • The original poster attempts to convert equations from standard form to slope-intercept form to find points of intersection. They express confusion over discrepancies between their answers and those in the textbook. Some participants suggest using graphical methods and algebraic methods to equate the two expressions for y.

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Participants are exploring various methods to find points of intersection, including graphical approaches and algebraic manipulation. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's understanding improving, and some guidance has been provided on how to approach the problem without drawing graphs.

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There are indications of uncertainty regarding the methods taught in class and the original poster's confidence in applying them. The discussion also touches on the need for clarity in solving equations for exams.

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The question asks that I : Find the point of intersection for each pair of lines.

a) x + y= 4, x - 2y=1
b) x + 2y= 0, x - y= 3
c) 2x + y= 1, x + y= 2
d) 6x= 12 - 3y, 1/2y - x= -5
e) 1/2x - y=8, x + 1/3y= 2
f) 5 + y= 4x, x + 2= 2/3y

I understand the formula of y=mx+b, m being the slope and b being the y-intercept. But everytime I try to solve these problems, my answer is different than the one in the book.

I figured I should change each of the equations from standard form to y=mx+b format.

For example a)
x+y=4
y=-x+4

x-2y=1
-2y=-x+1
y=1/2x -1/2

Am I doing something wrong? Because, when I try to draw it out on a graph my answer ends up being something weird like (2 1/3, 3/4).

Also is there any other way I can pind the POI without drawing a graph?

I need this for my exams...so please...help?
 
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One suggestion for the graphical method in item (a) is use axes intercept feature of the equations since they are given in the standard form. What is x when y is zero; what is y when x is zero. Do this for both equations and draw each line.

For your symbolic algebraic method, you took a good approach by find y of both equations and then equating them.

(1/2)x-(1/2) = -x+4
Results in (check for mistakes?) x=3, and then y=...
 
I undestand now.

Thank you very much for your help. ^___^
 
.hacker//Kazu said:
The question asks that I : Find the point of intersection for each pair of lines.

a) x + y= 4, x - 2y=1
b) x + 2y= 0, x - y= 3
c) 2x + y= 1, x + y= 2
d) 6x= 12 - 3y, 1/2y - x= -5
e) 1/2x - y=8, x + 1/3y= 2
f) 5 + y= 4x, x + 2= 2/3y

I understand the formula of y=mx+b, m being the slope and b being the y-intercept. But everytime I try to solve these problems, my answer is different than the one in the book.

I figured I should change each of the equations from standard form to y=mx+b format.

For example a)
x+y=4
y=-x+4

x-2y=1
-2y=-x+1
y=1/2x -1/2

Am I doing something wrong? Because, when I try to draw it out on a graph my answer ends up being something weird like (2 1/3, 3/4).

Also is there any other way I can find the POI without drawing a graph?
Of course there is. At the point, (x,y), where the two lines intersect, x and y must satisfy both equations. After you know, from the first equation, that y= -x+ 4, and, from the second that y= (1/2)x- 1/2, you know those two y values are the same thing: -x+ 4= (1/2)x- 1/2. Multiply both sides by 2: -2x+ 8= x- 1. Add 2x and 1 to both sides: 9= 3x so x= 9/3= 3. Then y= -3+ 4= 1. Notice that after you divided by 2 to find y in the second equation, I suggested that you immediately multiply by 2! After getting y= -x+ 4, you can just replace the "y" in x- 2y= 1 by that: x- 2(-x+ 4)= 1 so x+ 2x-8= 1. Now 3x-8= 1 so 3x= 9 again. As far as your graph is concerned, you should have used larger space. For example, after you saw that the intersection was around (2 1/3, 3/4), you might have drawn a new graph, just between, say x= 2 and x= 3, y= 0 and y= 1.

I need this for my exams...so please...help?
Why would you need this for exams? If they never taught you to solve two equations except by graphing them, why not just do it that way?
 
They did teach me. I just never really understood me. But I do now, so thanks for your troubles. :D
 


I am in Grade 9, and not neccesarily the most qualified to teach you anything, but I created a simpler equation a few days ago in math class than making the equations equal.
First, you are going to solve for the x-coordinate of the P.O.I.
To do this, use this formula: x= "d" divided by "S", with d being equal to B1 - B 2. "S" is equal to the difference in slope, using M2 subtract M1. This should give you the x coordinate for your P.O.I.

ex. y= 8x+18 d would equal 18, (18-0)
y= 10x S would equal 2, (10-8)
x= d divided by S
= 18 divided by two
= 9

Therefore, your x value would be 9. Then you just substitute in the x value in either equation, then calculate to find P.O.I.

ex. y= 10x
= 10(9)
= 90 Your coordinate would be (10, 90)

Checking with other equation:

y`= 8x + 18
= 8(9) + 18
= 72+ 18
= 90 Again, the y value comes out as 90, so the POI must be 10, 90

I know this is somewhat outdated, by the way.
 

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