Finding the potential energy of a time dependent force

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The discussion revolves around calculating the potential energy associated with a time-dependent force acting on a pendulum. Participants are examining the relationship between force and potential energy in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the integration of force to find potential energy and questioning the signs in their calculations. There is also inquiry into the origin of the problem and the specific conditions of the pendulum setup.

Discussion Status

Some participants have raised questions about the signs in the potential energy calculation and the implications of the force's direction. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and assumptions related to force and potential energy.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing a specific scenario involving a pendulum with a force acting on its top end, which is free to move. The context of the problem appears to involve understanding the dynamics of this system.

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Homework Statement
Force on an object is F=(m*g/3) *cos(ω*t) in x direction. Find potential energy
Relevant Equations
U=- ∫(F dx) = - ∫(F*v*dt)
U=-∫F*v*dt= -∫(m*g/3)*cos(ω*t) dt = -(m*g/3 )* (v/ω )* sin(ω*t)

except that according to the official solution, I should be getting positive sign instead of negative. Am I doing something wrong?
 
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May I ask the origin of this question?
 
hutchphd said:
May I ask the origin of this question?

Yes, I have to find a Lagrangian of the pendulum that has a force acting on its top end (which is free to move).
 
The change in potential energy of the object should be positive if Fdx is positive.
 
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hutchphd said:
The change in potential energy of the object should be positive if Fdx is positive.

OK, then why are we calculating force F as F=-∇U (with minus)
 

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