Finding the potential energy if force depends on both position and time

In summary, the conversation discusses a force given by f(r,t) = (k/r^2) * exp(-alpha*t), where k and alpha are positive constants, r is the position of the particle from the force center, and t is time. It is determined that this force is not considered conservative, but can be considered a pseudo potential over a short time scale. The concept of energy conservation is not applicable due to the highly time dependent nature of the force.
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How to find potential energy if force depends on both position of particle and time ?

Suppose force is : f(r,t) = (k/r^2) * exp(-alpha*t),
k, alpha = positive constants,
r = position of the particle from force-centre
t = time

Is this force a conservative or non-conservative ?
 
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A time varying potential is generally not considered conservative. However, if the time scale of the interesting motion is small compared to the rate the potential is changing, you can call this a pseudo potential. Over a short time scale the energy will approximately only depend only on position.
 
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swapnilp said:
Is this force a conservative or non-conservative ?
The question is rather how useful the concept of a potential is here. You don't have the usual energy conservation over time. Depending on what you want to compute, using the force itself might be simpler.
 
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With a highly time dependant force like the one you have there the concept of energy is not exactly defined or useful.
 

1. What is potential energy?

Potential energy is the energy that an object possesses due to its position or configuration. It is stored energy that can be converted into other forms of energy, such as kinetic energy.

2. How does force depend on both position and time?

In some situations, the force acting on an object may depend on both its position and the time. This means that the force changes over time and may also vary depending on where the object is located.

3. How is potential energy related to force?

Potential energy and force are closely related. The change in potential energy of an object is equal to the negative work done by the force acting on the object.

4. How can potential energy be calculated if force depends on both position and time?

To find the potential energy in a situation where the force depends on both position and time, you can use the equation U(x,t) = -∫F(x,t)dx, where U is the potential energy, F is the force, and the integral is taken over the distance x.

5. What are some real-life examples of potential energy with varying forces?

A common example of potential energy with varying forces is a simple pendulum. As the pendulum swings back and forth, the force acting on it changes due to the varying position and time. Another example is a spring, where the force depends on how much the spring is stretched or compressed.

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