Finding the Radius & Interval of Convergence of a Power Series

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The discussion focuses on determining the radius and interval of convergence for the power series defined by the sum \(\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} (1 + \frac{1}{2} + ... + \frac{1}{n})x^n\). Participants suggest using the ratio test to analyze the convergence, noting that rewriting the sum in brackets as \(\frac{1}{n}\) may lead to confusion. The consensus is that the limit approaches 1, making the ratio test inconclusive, and further exploration of the behavior of the series is necessary to establish convergence criteria.

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Homework Statement



\sum from n=1 to inf (1+ 1/2 + ... 1/n)x^n

Find the radius of convergence and the interval of convergence of the given power series.

Homework Equations



Dunno..

The Attempt at a Solution



Stuck thinking about it. I'm not sure if I can combine what's in brackets with the x^n or if I need to do something else.
 
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Try a ratio test.
 
Yeah,

Do you think that I should rewrite ( 1 + 1/2 + ... 1/n) as 1/n and do a ration test on
\sum x^n / n

Or is there a special way to treat the first expression in brackets.
 
Hmm, I think you just do the sum of a sum..

But if you do that and use the ratio test you get the limit to be zero, and then it would be convergent for all values of x. I just have no clue if that's how it's done.
 
craig16 said:
Yeah,

Do you think that I should rewrite ( 1 + 1/2 + ... 1/n) as 1/n and do a ration test on
\sum x^n / n

Or is there a special way to treat the first expression in brackets.

But that's not true. The ratio test expression is (1+1/2+...+1/n+1/(n+1))/(1+1/2+...+1/n). Can you show that the limit of that is 1?
 
Hmm,

But how would showing the sum in brackets goes to one with the ratio test help? If that limit equals one the ratio test would be inconclusive.

If I treat this as two sums the (1/n) sum would diverge. So I still don't know what to do.
 
craig16 said:
Hmm,

But how would showing the sum in brackets goes to one with the ratio test help? If that limit equals one the ratio test would be inconclusive.

If I treat this as two sums the (1/n) sum would diverge. So I still don't know what to do.

I omitted the x^(n+1)/x^n part of the ratio test. If you can show the limit of what I gave you is 1, then the ratio test will give you x for the ratio.
 
Okay, makes sense.

honestly though I don't quite understand the algebra of that limit

n+ 1 / n

you would have, (1/2 + 1/3 ... 1/n+1 ) / (1+1/2... 1/n)

Everything cancels out but ( 1/ n+1 ) / 1 ) ?

Or does the 1/n stay on the bottom
 
craig16 said:
Okay, makes sense.

honestly though I don't quite understand the algebra of that limit

n+ 1 / n

you would have, (1/2 + 1/3 ... 1/n+1 ) / (1+1/2... 1/n)

Everything cancels out but ( 1/ n+1 ) / 1 ) ?

Or does the 1/n stay on the bottom

Break it up as (1+1/2+...+1/n)+1/(n+1) in the numerator and (1+1/2+...+1/n) in the denominator. Divide through by the denominator. You get 1+something. What's the something? Can you show the something goes to zero as n->infinity?
 
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Okay,

I'm curious though why you wrote the numerator with a 1 in it. Since it is n+1 won't it start at 1/2 and finish with 1/n+1, and the denominator start as 1 and finish with 1/n?
 
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craig16 said:
Okay,

I'm curious though why you wrote the numerator with a 1 in it. Since it is n+1 won't it start at 1/2 and finish with 1/n+1, and the denominator start as 1 and finish with 1/n?

Not at all. If a_n is the coefficient, then a_1=1, a_2=1+1/2, a_3=1+1/2+1/3. So what's a_3/a_2?
 

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