Finding the Shortest Path for Walking in a Room

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The problem involves calculating the displacement of a fly moving within a room defined by specific dimensions and determining the shortest walking path by visualizing the room as a box that can be unfolded.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the setup of a coordinate system and the application of the Pythagorean theorem to find the displacement. There are questions about the visualization of the fly's path and the unfolding of the room to determine the shortest walking distance.

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Some participants have successfully calculated the displacement and are now exploring how to approach the second part of the problem regarding the shortest path. Guidance has been offered to utilize the hint about unfolding the room.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a hint suggesting that the problem can be solved without calculus, and participants are encouraged to visualize the room's layout to aid in their understanding.

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Homework Statement


A room has dimensions 2.85 m (height) × 5.93 m × 6.29 m. A fly starting at one corner flies around, ending up at the diagonally opposite corner. (a) What is the magnitude of its displacement? (b) If the fly walks rather than flies, what is the length of the shortest path it can take? (Hint: This can be answered without calculus. The room is like a box. Unfold its walls to flatten them into a plane.)

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HINT:Put the origin of an xyz coordinate system at the starting corner; let the axes extend along the room edges.

To find the shortest path for walking, unfold the room like a box, laying out its sides and marking the start and finish points. If you unfold it the right way, you need only the Pythagorean theorem.

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For Part A, I got 6.58 m, but this answer came up wrong on the HW program.
 
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I set up the XYZ plane. 2.85 was the Z axis..and 5.93 and the 6.29 were the X and Y axis. I basically made a triangle from one corner to the other. I did 2.85^2+5.93^2=magnitude of one displacement. That was 6.58. That is pretty much as far as I have gotten on this problem. I don't know if i set up another triangle or not. I just can't visualize the path the fly took. It's hard to put on paper.
 
I found this image, which may be helpful:

pythagoras3d.jpg


You have found the hypotenuse of the blue triangle in the figure (6.58 m). You can use that information to find the desired distance, which is the hypotenuse of the yellow triangle here.
 
Yes! I got 9.10, which was the correct answer. Now how do I come across part B?
 
Try the hint, about unfolding the room like a box.
 

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