What is the shortest path a fly can take in a room with given dimensions?

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The problem involves a fly navigating a room with specific dimensions, seeking to determine both the magnitude of its displacement and the shortest path it can take when walking. The context is rooted in geometry and spatial reasoning within a three-dimensional space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using the Pythagorean theorem in three dimensions to find the box diagonal for displacement. There are suggestions to explore various walking paths, including diagonal routes across surfaces of the room.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on applying the Pythagorean theorem in 3D, while others are exploring different potential paths for the fly's movement. There appears to be a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the application of geometric principles in this context.

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There are mentions of inadequate explanations from educational resources, which may be influencing participants' understanding of the concepts involved. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and attempts to clarify the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



A room has dimensions 2.59 m (height) × 5.81 m × 6.09 m. A fly starting at one corner flies around, ending up at the diagonally opposite corner. (a) What is the magnitude of its displacement? (b) If the fly walks rather than flies, what is the length of the shortest path it can take? (Hint: This can be answered without calculus. The room is like a box. Unfold its walls to flatten them into a plane.)

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I'm thinking c=ab*sin(\phi) has something to do with it (cross product)

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I took the hint, but honestly I tried it several different ways before giving up. I have an absolutely terrible physics professor and even worse, the book is just as bad at explaining (Halliday and Resnick). I think that this has something to do with cross products of vectors though.
 
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Use the Pythagorean theorem in 3d to compute the box diagonal for the displacement.

For the other you have to try some paths like diagonally across the floor the up the wall or diagonally across a wall... There are a lot of possible walking paths.
 
Thanks, I didn't realize that pythagorean theorem worked in 3D. Just an example of one of those things that both my professor and the book fail to mention.
 
Your math professor should have told you about Pythagoras in 3D.
 
EngnrMatt said:
Thanks, I didn't realize that pythagorean theorem worked in 3D. Just an example of one of those things that both my professor and the book fail to mention.
It's pretty easy to reason it out on your own. You should get used to the fact you're not going to be spoon-fed everything in college. Playing the victim card and blaming the book and professor for your difficulties is a sure-fire way to fail.
 

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