Finding the Speed of a Block on a Roller Coaster

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a uniform solid cylinder rolling down a frictionless track and around a loop. The goal is to find the speed of the cylinder at the top of the loop, utilizing principles of conservation of energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of energy, considering both kinetic and potential energy. There is a mention of the need to account for the kinetic energy of a rolling object, which differs from that of a sliding object.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the conservation of energy approach and the distinction between kinetic energy for rolling versus sliding objects. There is acknowledgment of the problem's complexity, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

There was initial confusion regarding the type of object involved in the problem, with a transition from a block to a solid cylinder. This change may affect the calculations and assumptions regarding kinetic energy.

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Homework Statement


A small cube (m=0.450 kg) is at a height of 393 cm up a frictionless track which has a loop of radius, R = 58.95 cm at the bottom. The cube starts from rest and slides freely down the ramp and around the loop. Find the speed of the block when it is at the top of the loop.


Homework Equations


v^2=g (0.66H-2R)

The Attempt at a Solution


This was one of those questions that i never understood. The final is coming up and its bothering me that i still don't no how to do this.'
The answer's 7.34m/s.
obviously the equation i tried above's not right... any help?

thanks!
 
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its a conservation of energy problem, with only KE and PE
you know the total mechanical energy (Emec) and Emec=KE+PE=.5mv^2+mgh
 
oh crap posted wrong part >.<
The block's suppose to be "A uniform solid cylinder (m=0.450 kg, of small radius)" and answer's 6.00m/s. Sorry.
 
ok, that doesn't change the question too much.
you use the same equation as before, Emec=KE+PE, but now KE becomes the kinetic energy of a rolling object.
As you know the kinetic energy of a object moving linearly (like a block) is .5mv^2.
the kinetic energy of a rotating object is similar, .5Iw^2 (the w is supposed to be omega)

Therefore, the kinetic energy of a rolling object, one that rotates and moves is:
KE=.5mv^2+.5Iw^2

The problem is the same as before, except for the KE and the fact you know have to find the equations for moment of inertia of a solid cylinder and relate the angular velocity to linear velocity. Now, even though they don't give you the radius, if you set everything up properly, that shouldn't be a problem
 
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I got it! i didn't know that it was still a conservation problem.

thanks a lot for the help
 
your welcome :smile:
 

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