Finding time required via force equation

In summary: The initial distance between planet and Sun is d = 2a. What is the time period along a circular orbit with radius d/2?
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The problem, relevant equations, and my attempt at a solution are all shown on both attached images.
Not sure where the π and and extra (1/4)1/2 is coming from.
Also, I noticed that my final result, in the attemp at a solution should be t=(mb3/4k)1/2, no negative sign.
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Your velocity calculation is wrong. That definite integral will give the velocity at the origin (which will be infinite), but for the next step you need the velocity at an arbitrary distance x.
 
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haruspex said:
Your velocity calculation is wrong. That definite integral will give the velocity at the origin (which will be infinite), but for the next step you need the velocity at an arbitrary distance x.

Thanks for the quick reply, but not to seem to ignorant in relation to using definite integrals, why would the velocity be infinite at origin?
 
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shanepitts said:
Thanks for the quick reply, but not to seem to ignorant in relation to using definite integrals, why would the velocity be infinite at origin?
What did the indefinite integral look like? What happened when you applied the x=0 bound?
 
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haruspex said:
What did the indefinite integral look like? What happened when you applied the x=0 bound?

so obvious, it gets divided by zero; it Is undefined.

Thanks again
 
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shanepitts said:

Such problem can be solved by using Kepler's Third Law. This is planetary motion, only the ellipse is very-very elongated. Still, the time of revolution is the same as along an equivalent circle, with radius equal to the semi-mayor axis of this orbit.
From the definition of ellipse, the sum of the distances between the planet and the foci is equal to the mayor axis, 2a. And it is the same as ##2\sqrt{f^2+b^2} where b is half of the minor axis.
If you make the ellipse narrower and narrower, at the limit of b=0, you get that a=f. The semi-mayor axis is equal to the distance of a focus from the centre. The planet starts from one focus and arrives to the Sun at the other focus in half of the time period.
According to Newton's Third Law, the time period is the same as that on a circle, with the same radius as the semi-mayor axis of the distorted ellipse.
The initial distance between planet and Sun is d = 2a. What is the time period along a circular orbit with radius d/2?
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1. How do I calculate the time required using the force equation?

The time required can be calculated by dividing the force applied by the acceleration. The formula is: time = force/acceleration. This will give you the time in seconds.

2. What is the force equation and how does it relate to finding time?

The force equation is F=ma, where F is force, m is mass, and a is acceleration. It relates to finding time because it can be rearranged as t=F/a, where t is time. This allows us to calculate the time required for an object to reach a certain velocity when given the force and acceleration.

3. Can the force equation be used to find the time required for any type of motion?

Yes, the force equation can be used to find the time required for any type of motion as long as the force and acceleration are known. It can be applied to linear, circular, or rotational motion.

4. Is there a specific unit of measurement for time in the force equation?

The unit of measurement for time in the force equation is seconds (s). This is because time is usually measured in seconds and the force equation relates force to acceleration in terms of time.

5. Are there any limitations to using the force equation to find time required?

The force equation has limitations when it comes to finding time required for certain types of motion, such as when the acceleration is not constant. It also assumes that there are no external forces acting on the object. In real-world situations, there may be other factors that affect the time required for an object to reach a certain velocity.

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