Finding velocity after collision if you know mass and height. Help

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a collision between a ball and a pendulum, focusing on finding the velocity after the collision and the initial velocity of the ball before the collision. The problem includes specific masses and a height reached after the collision.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the equation for final velocity and the importance of unit conversion. There are attempts to derive the initial velocity using conservation of momentum and kinematic equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on unit conversion and the conservation of momentum. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the initial velocity of the ball and the correct application of equations.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding unit conversions and the application of conservation laws. The problem involves specific masses and heights that may influence the calculations.

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Finding velocity after collision if you know mass and height. Help!

Homework Statement



A 50 gram ball enters a a pendulum with mass 200 g. The pair then swings up to a height of 11 cm.
find the velocity immediately after the collision? Then find initial velocity of ball before collision.

Homework Equations


Vf= square root of 2gh.



The Attempt at a Solution


Used above equation and got 14.7 which proved incorrect. Any help would be nice! Thanks!
 
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astru025 said:
Used above equation and got 14.7 which proved incorrect.
You're off by a factor of 10, so I suspect a problem with units. Try again!
 
Ahh forgot to change 11 cm to meters. My answer of 1.47 proved to be correct! Thanks so much
 
So I have 1.47 m/s for my velocity after the collision. How do I find initial velocity of just the ball right before the collision?!
 
I tried the equation Vf^2= Vi^2 + 2gh but my answer proved incorrect. The answer I calculated was .07 m/s
 
astru025 said:
So I have 1.47 m/s for my velocity after the collision. How do I find initial velocity of just the ball right before the collision?!
What's conserved during the collision?
 
Momentum? Law of conservation of mometum?... I don't have a clue!
 
astru025 said:
Momentum? Law of conservation of mometum?
Exactly.

... I don't have a clue!
Sure you do. :wink:
 
I used the equation Vf= M1 x Vi / M1 + M2
1.47 = .05 kg x Vi / .05 + .2 = 7.35.
My answer was correct! Thanks so much :)
 

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