Finding velocity (deals with coefficient of kinetic energy)

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The problem involves estimating the initial speed of a car based on the length of skid marks and the coefficient of kinetic friction. It is situated within the context of kinematics and frictional forces on a level road.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of various equations related to motion and friction, questioning how to relate the known quantities to find the initial speed. There is mention of a specific formula, V² = 2*a*x, and its components, particularly the variable 'x', which represents distance.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the relevant equations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between acceleration, friction, and distance, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or the interpretation of variables.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working with the assumption that the car decelerated over a distance of 85 m, and there is a focus on understanding the implications of this distance in relation to the initial speed calculation.

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Homework Statement



Police lieutenants, examining the scene of an accident involving two cars, measure the skid marks of one of the cars, which nearly came to a stop before colliding, to be 85 m long. The coefficient of kinetic friction between rubber and the pavement is about 0.70. Estimate the initial speed of that car assuming a level road.



Homework Equations


Fnet=ma
Ff=(coefficient of kinetic energy) Fn
vf = vi + at

The Attempt at a Solution


i have no idea what to do since none of the formulas work with the knowns.
 
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mandaa123 said:

Homework Statement



Police lieutenants, examining the scene of an accident involving two cars, measure the skid marks of one of the cars, which nearly came to a stop before colliding, to be 85 m long. The coefficient of kinetic friction between rubber and the pavement is about 0.70. Estimate the initial speed of that car assuming a level road.

Homework Equations


Fnet=ma
Ff=(coefficient of kinetic energy) Fn
vf = vi + at

The Attempt at a Solution


i have no idea what to do since none of the formulas work with the knowns.

You should also know this formula

V2 = 2*a*x

It among others can be found here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=905663&postcount=2

You also know that the force on the car from friction is m*a = u*m*g

Which means that a = u*g

V2 = 2*a*x = 2*u*g*x
 
LowlyPion said:
You should also know this formula

V2 = 2*a*x

It among others can be found here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=905663&postcount=2

You also know that the force on the car from friction is m*a = u*m*g

Which means that a = u*g

V2 = 2*a*x = 2*u*g*x
what does x represent in that formula?
 
mandaa123 said:
what does x represent in that formula?

Doesn't the problem say that it decelerated over a distance of 85 m ?

Wouldn't you want to know how much the car decelerated over that distance to give you an idea of what velocity it slowed from?
 

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