Finding Velocity from Acceleration Graph

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The discussion revolves around finding the velocity of a particle at t=7.0s using an acceleration graph. Participants are encouraged to work with the geometry of the graph rather than relying on kinematic equations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between velocity and acceleration, particularly through integration and area under the graph. Questions arise about how to accurately interpret the graph and calculate the area, especially considering multiple regions of interest.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various participants attempting to clarify their understanding of how to derive velocity from the acceleration graph. Some guidance has been provided regarding the integration process and the importance of considering the entire area under the curve, but no consensus has been reached on the specific calculations needed.

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Participants express frustration over the complexity of the problem and the limitations of the forum rules against providing complete answers. There is an emphasis on understanding the area under the graph as it relates to changes in velocity rather than final values.

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Homework Statement


Find each particle's velocity at t=7.0s. Work with the geometry of the graphs, not with kinematic equations.

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I'm not sure how to arrive at an answer. For the previous question (velocity from graph b) I found the value of -20 m/s by reading the graph and before that (velocity from graph a) I did a simple delta/delta[t] calculation and got -10 m/s. My issue is that I can't find an velocity at t=7.0s for graph C (the acceleration graph.) Please help.
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Velocity is the integral of acceleration with respect to time. How could you read that off a graph?
 
Ibix said:
Velocity is the integral of acceleration with respect to time. How could you read that off a graph?

by integrating the area at that point to the x axis?
1/2(2)(-20)
?
 
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Integration is right, presuming you meant to the y axis. I don't think you've got to the right answer though, since there's more than one triangle to worry about in the 0-7s region of the graph. You can check your answer by counting squares for a graph this simple.

Remember that the integral just gives you the velocity change over the time period, which isn't quite what you're asked for.
 
Ibix said:
Integration is right, presuming you meant to the y axis. I don't think you've got to the right answer though, since there's more than one triangle to worry about in the 0-7s region of the graph. You can check your answer by counting squares for a graph this simple.

Remember that the integral just gives you the velocity change over the time period, which isn't quite what you're asked for.

how would i isolate
 
Find a(t) and do antiderivative to find v(t).
 
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still can't get it.
i tried calculating the area underneath both of those and got 10 m/s, but that wasn't the velocity of the acceleration graph... I am not sure what to do
 
as much as i hate to ask for a straight answer (with a minor explanation) from you guys, i think it would be beneficial because i simply can't get it and I've inputted about 12 answers into this program
 
Complete answers are forbidden by forum rules.

The area under the graph can be obtained by counting squares between the graph and the x-axis, remembering that the area is negative when the graph is below the axis. Each square is 1s wide and 10ms-2 high. To start you off, the area between 5s and 7s is -20ms-1. You can work out the area between 0s and 5s.

Do remember that the result is the velocity gain over the period, not the final velocity.
 
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