Finding velocity with energy equations

  • Thread starter Thread starter BlueQuark
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Energy Velocity
Click For Summary
The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving a rock sliding down a hemispherical bowl, where the user calculates the speed of the rock at the bottom and the normal force acting on it. For part (b), the user calculates the potential energy at point A and equates it to kinetic energy at point B, arriving at a speed of approximately 3.1 m/s, while the book states 2.8 m/s, prompting confusion about the role of friction. For part (d), the user calculates the normal force as equal to the weight of the rock, resulting in 1.96 N, but the book claims it should be 5 N, indicating a misunderstanding of the forces at play. The discussion highlights the importance of considering friction and the dynamics of motion in solving such problems. Clarification on these points is requested to resolve discrepancies with the textbook answers.
BlueQuark
Messages
13
Reaction score
1

Homework Statement


A small rock with mass 0.20 kg is released from rest at point A, which is at the top edge of a large, hemispherical bowl with radius R=0.50 m. Assume that the size of the rock is small compared to R, so that the rock can be treated as a particle, and assume that the rock slides rather than rolls. The work done by friction on the rock when it moves from point A to point B at the bottom of the bowl has magnitude 0.22 J.

(b) What is the speed of the rock as it reaches point B?

(d) Just as the rock reaches point B, what is the normal force on it due to the bottom of the bowl?
ZH4HStM.jpg


[/B]

Homework Equations


##U_i = K_f## (I believe this is correct)
##W_{other} + W_{grav} = K_2 + K_1##
##.5mv_1^2 + mgy_1 + W_{other} = .5mv_2^2 + mgy_2##
##U_{grav} = mgh##
##K = .5mv^2##
[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



b. The potential energy at point A should be equal to the kinetic energy at point B.
The potential energy at point A is ##U_{grav,1} = (.20)(9.81)(.5) = .98J##
So ##.98J = .5(.20)v^2 = .1v^2##

Solving for V, I end up with approximately 3.1m/s. The problem is that in the back of the book, the answer key says 2.8m/s. I'm not sure if I did something wrong or the book is wrong (It's been wrong before).

d. At the bottom, the normal force should be equal to its weight.
##W = mg = (.20)(9.81) = 1.96 N##
So the normal force is equal to 1.96 Newtons. The back of the book says 5 Newtons, so I'm wrong here as well.

Any help is appreciated, thanks!



[/B]
 
Physics news on Phys.org
for part b) the book is correct. What happened to the friction?
 
For part d) you need to think about the shape of the motion of the rock.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

Similar threads

  • · Replies 58 ·
2
Replies
58
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
5K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
2K