Finding Work done under a graph?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by a varying force along the x-axis, as represented by a graph. The original poster attempts to find the work done as the object moves from x = 0 to x = 15.0 m, using areas of geometric shapes derived from the graph.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss separating the graph into triangles and squares to calculate the area, which represents work. There are questions about the accuracy of these methods and the interpretation of the areas as positive or negative work.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in the problem, with some providing feedback on the calculations and suggesting that the original poster clarify their workings. There is an exploration of the counts of positive and negative areas, with some guidance on how to approach the calculations more accurately.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding the representation of force in the graph and the corresponding work calculations. Participants are also addressing the need to account for both positive and negative areas in their calculations.

juju1

Homework Statement


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A force acts on an object along an x axis. The force varies with position as shown in the graph below. On the graph, F = 52.0 N. Find the work done by the force as it moves the object from x = 0 to x = 15.0 m.

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So what I tried to do was separate the graph into triangles and squares..and then use it's area (i.e. for triangle i did (1/2 x b x h)

I tried this and it didn't work. So then i tried separating them into trapezoids...still didn't work. What am I doing wrong?

The answers i got were 936 and 1044[/B]
 

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If you do a quick count of the squares, what do you get? i.e. How many positive squares and how many negative ones? Meanwhile, how much work does a single square represent?
 
Why don't you show how you got 936 and 1044. Then we can see if there's a math error or have another suggestion.
 
ROUGHLY 26 positive and 9 negative
 
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juju1 said:
ROUGHLY 26 positive and 9 negative
Now answer my second question=see my post above=I edited it...
 
magoo said:
Why don't you show how you got 936 and 1044. Then we can see if there's a math error or have another suggestion.

Okay so i separated the 'postive' into 2 triangles and one square. One triangle had a base of 3 height of 4 and the another triangle had a base of 2 height of 4. To calculate the work for each triangle, I used a triangle's area formula. And for the square the base was 4 and height was 4. I used bxh formula.

Did the same for 'negative.' just separated everything
 
Charles Link said:
Now answer my second question=see my post above=I edited it...
One square does 52 J?
 
juju1 said:
One square does 52 J?
## F=52 ##, but that is 2 units high. 52 is incorrect.
 
juju1 said:

Homework Statement


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A force acts on an object along an x axis. The force varies with position as shown in the graph below. On the graph, F = 52.0 N. Find the work done by the force as it moves the object from x = 0 to x = 15.0 m.

Homework Equations


[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



So what I tried to do was separate the graph into triangles and squares..and then use it's area (i.e. for triangle i did (1/2 x b x h)

I tried this and it didn't work. So then i tried separating them into trapezoids...still didn't work. What am I doing wrong?

The answers i got were 936 and 1044[/B]
Hard to say what you did wrong unless you show your workings. You might have goofed on finding areas, or forgot to note that part of the area is negative, or both.
 
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AH so 26 J.
 
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juju1 said:
ROUGHLY 26 positive and 9 negative
How does that compare with your more precise arithmetic with the triangles? I get 26 and 8, so your rough count was quite close.
 
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I don't quite get the question you're asking...but I re-did it again, now knowing that it's 26J per square and got 468..
 
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juju1 said:
I don't quite get the question you're asking...but I re-did it again, now knowing that it's 26J per square and got 468..
Very good. What I was asking is, your rough estimate (post 4) was 26 and 9, but what was your exact count with the triangle method? You got the correct answer now, so I presume your exact counts were an area of +26 and the other area was -8.
 
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Ahhhh, I get it. Yes, my exact count was positive 26 and negative 8! Thank you, Charles!
 
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