Finding X & Y Intercept of y= cos(e^(-x) + 2)

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The discussion revolves around finding the x and y intercepts of the function y = cos(e^(-x) + 2). Participants are exploring the implications of the cosine function and its properties in relation to the given equation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss setting y to zero to find x-intercepts and question the relevance of using the cosine addition formula. There are inquiries about the conditions under which the cosine function equals zero and the implications of using radians versus degrees. Some participants suggest examining the periodic nature of the cosine function and the potential for infinite x-intercepts.

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Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the number of x-intercepts and the use of logarithms. Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the function's behavior.

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No specific range of x values is provided, leading to discussions about the implications for the number of x-intercepts. There is also a note on the potential confusion between different logarithmic notations.

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Hi,
I have to find x and y intercept of this function

y= cos(e^(-x) + 2)

This is what i have done so far, to find the x intercept i put y= 0

0= cos(e^(-x) + 2)

can i use Cos (A+B)= CosA CosB - SinA SinB here
if i use that then i get

0= cos e^(-x) cos2 - sin e^(-x) sin2

i don't know what to do next. Please help, thanks.
 
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Where is the cos function zero?

The argment of the cos must be that which makes cos(a)=0.
 
Integral said:
Where is the cos function zero?

The argment of the cos must be that which makes cos(a)=0.

cos function is zero at 90 degrees. How does that help.
 
1) I believe you will need to use radians to solve this problem, because it will not really make sense to carry out algebraic manipulations using an angle in degrees.

2) To find the x-intercept, we need to solve the equation cos(e^{-x} + 2)\ =\ 0. First consider the equation cos(y)\ =\ 0, then see how this can be used to solve the more complicated equation. I don't think the compound angle formula is really needed in this question.

3) Does the question give you a range of x values for which the function is defined? If not, how many x-intercepts can there be? Also, it may be helpful to take note of the range of values e^{-x} can take.
 
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Have you found out the y-intercept (which is pretty easier) yet?
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In most calculus problems, the angle is in radians, so we don't really use degrees here.
\cos x = 0 \Leftrightarrow x = \frac{\pi}{2} + k \pi, \ k \in \mathbb{Z}
Now, just take one minute to look at the unit circle to see if you can get it.
Now if \cos (e ^ {-x} + 2) = 0
What should e-x + 2 equal?
Can you go from here? :)
 
Thanks pizzasky and VietDao29. No range of x values is given.

(e ^ {-x} + 2) = \frac{\pi}{2}

(e ^ {-x} ) = \frac{\pi}{2} - 2

{-x} = \log \frac{\pi}{2} - 2

So if i substitute the value of -x in the equation i get

cos(pi/2) = 0
 
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However, cosine is periodic. The graph of y= cos(x) crosses the x-axis an infinite number of times and so has an infinite number "x-intercepts".
If no range was given for x, cos(e^{-x}+2)= 0 when e^{-x}+ 2= 2n\pi+ \frac{\pi}{2} or e^{-x}+2= 2n\pi- \frac{\pi}{2} where n can be any integer.
 
I do not quite agree with your statement " -x = \log \frac{\pi}{2} - 2". Shouldn't the natural logarithm be used, instead of "log"?

Also, since no range of x values is given, how many x-intercepts can there be? Take a look at VietDao29's post for a hint!
 
pizzasky said:
I do not quite agree with your statement " -x = \log \frac{\pi}{2} - 2". Shouldn't the natural logarithm be used, instead of "log"?
Many "advanced" text (beyond calculus) use "log x" to mean the natural logarithm and don't mention the common logarithm.

Also, since no range of x values is given, how many x-intercepts can there be? Take a look at VietDao29's post for a hint!
 
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Oops, I did not know that...:blushing: But shouldn't it be -x = \log (\frac{\pi}{2} - 2) (which, incidentally, is undefined)?
 
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Thanks everyone, so there are finite number of x intercepts since no range is given.
 
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You mean "infinite" number of x intercepts? Whilst there is no limit to the number of x-intercepts, some of the possible intercepts must be rejected. For instance, 1 of the intercepts is calculated to be x = -\log (\frac{\pi}{2} - 2). But is this possible?
 

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