Solve Mcos^2(x) + Ncos(x) – 3 = 0 for M & N | Trig Help

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The discussion revolves around finding the values of M and N in the quadratic equation Mcos^2(x) + Ncos(x) – 3 = 0, given specific values for cos(x). The subject area involves trigonometric identities and algebraic manipulation.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the given cosine values and the quadratic equation, with one suggesting the use of the Pythagorean identity while expressing uncertainty about its effectiveness. Others discuss the algebraic approach of finding a quadratic equation based on provided solutions.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem algebraically, suggesting a method to derive the quadratic equation from the known solutions. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods, but no consensus has been reached on a single approach.

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Homework Statement


If cos(x) = -¾ or cos = ½ then the value of M and N in the equation Mcos^2(x) + Ncos(x) – 3 = 0 are what?


Homework Equations


Identities I can use:
csc(x) = 1/sin(x)
cot(x) = 1/tan(x)
sec(x) = 1/cos(x)
tan(x) = sin(x)/cos(x)
cot(x) = cos(x)/sin(x)
sin^2(x) +cos^2(x) = 1
1 +tan^2(x) = sec^2(x)
1 +cot^2(x) = csc^2(x)
sin(A+B) = (sinA)(cosB) + (cosA)(sinB)
sin(A-B) = (sinA)(cosB) - (cosA)(sinB)
cos(A+B) = (cosA)(cosB) - (sinA)(sinB)
cos(A-B) = (cosA)(cosB) + (sinA)(sinB)
sin(2A) = 2(sinA)(cosA)
cos(2A) = cos^2A - sin^2A



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Mathhelp77 said:
cos = ½

What is that? Welcome to PF. You need to attempt a solution before we can really help.
 
Alright :) I have kind of a few different things I've been working on and I'm not sure which is right or if any of them are...

I considered using the pythagorean identity to get
-Msin^2(x) + Ncos(x) - 2 = 0

and that is my best guess but that doesn't really make sense cause then I am bringing sin which might make it more difficult :S So... perhaps I have to see what it could factor into?
 
This is not really a trig question, but more of an algebra question. I assume you know how to solve quadratics by factoring. Here's an example:

\begin{aligned}<br /> 3y^2 - y - 4 &amp;= 0 \\<br /> (3y - 4)(y + 1) &amp;= 0 \\<br /> 3y - 4 &amp;= 0 \rightarrow y = 4/3 \\<br /> y + 1 &amp;= 0 \rightarrow y = -1<br /> \end{aligned}

But suppose I gave you the solutions y = 4/3 and y = -1 and I want you to find the quadratic with those solutions. We go "backwards":
\begin{aligned}<br /> y = 4/3 \rightarrow 3y = 4 \rightarrow 3y - 4 &amp;= 0 \\<br /> y = -1 \rightarrow y + 1 &amp;= 0 \\<br /> (3y - 4)(y + 1) &amp;= 0 \\<br /> 3y^2 - y - 4 &amp;= 0<br /> \end{aligned}

You have to do something similar here. You're given the "solutions":
cos x = -3/4 and cos x = 1/2.
Pretend that "cos x" is the variable. Go "backwards" and find the quadratic in terms of cos x. Equate the coefficients with
M\cos^2 x + N\cos x - 3 = 0
to find M and N. That's it! No identities needed.
 
okay that makes sense! Thanks a lot you were a huge help!
 

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