Finding Y in Terms of X - Step by Step

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The discussion revolves around solving an equation for Y in terms of X, specifically the equation X = (Y-2)/3 - 1/(3Y). Participants are exploring the algebraic manipulation required to isolate Y.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the interpretation of the equation, with some noting potential ambiguities in the terms. There is a suggestion to multiply through by Y to form a quadratic equation, which leads to further exploration of the roots of the equation.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to form the quadratic equation and questioning the accuracy of each other's algebraic steps. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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One participant acknowledges a mistake in the interpretation of the equation's terms, which may affect the subsequent algebraic manipulations. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the equation is correctly set up before proceeding with solving it.

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¿How to Find Y?

Hi, I have this equation and I need to find Y in terms of X. Could anyone explain me, step by step, how to do it?

X=(Y-2)/3 - 1/3Y

Sorry if there is any grammar mistakes, english isn't my native language.
 
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Y cancels out as you see:

X = (Y-2)/3 - 1/3 Y = Y/3 - 2/3 - Y/3 = -2/3
 
X=(Y-2)/3 - 1/3Y
There is a little ambiguity, but I'll assume that the last term is1/(3Y), not (1/3)Y (repetit assumption). In that case, multiply all terms by Y and you will get a quadratic equation in Y, with X as part of the coefficient of the linear term. Solve the quadratic for Y and you will have your answer (actually two answers).
 
Thanks, it was 1/(3Y). My fault.
 
Welcome to the PF, 0000. Please be sure to post homework and coursework questions like this one in the Homework Help forums here on the PF (where I've moved this thread to), and not in the general forums.

Now, can you write out the quadratic equation as mathman has suggested, and show us how you would solve it?
 
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Ok, berkeman

X=(Y-2)/3 - 1/(3Y)

yx=y((y-2)/3) - 1/(3Y))

yx=(y^2 - 2y)/3 -y/3y)

yx=(y^2 - 2y)/3 - 1/3

yx=(y^2 - 2y - 1)/3

y^2 - 2y - 1 - 3yx=0

y^2 - y(2+3x) - 1 = 0

a=1
b=-(2+3x) = (-2 - 3x)
c=-1

y=((2+3x)±√(9x^2 + 12x + 8))/2
 
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yx=(y^2 - 2y)/3 - 1/3
yx=(y^2 - 2y - 1)
You forgot a 3 there. It's correct on the next line though.

y^2 - 2y - 1 - 3yx=0
y^2 - y(2-3x) - 1 = 0
Are you sure? Check what happens if you work out the brackets in the second line. I think it's a minus sign off.

The idea is correct though, just watch the minuses :)
 

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