Fine literature on penrose diagrams?

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The discussion revolves around seeking recommendations for literature on Penrose diagrams, particularly in the context of general relativity. Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the subject and preferences for types of resources.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a lack of preparation in general relativity and seeks a more serious introduction to Penrose diagrams, having only read introductory chapters in certain texts.
  • Another participant questions the level of preparation and what the original poster is looking to learn, also inquiring about access to online journals.
  • A participant mentions a preference for books over online journals and suggests that there are similarities between Penrose diagrams and conformal mapping diagrams from electrodynamics.
  • Several references are provided, including "Large Scale Structure of Spacetime" by Hawking & Ellis, sections by Penrose in historical conference proceedings, and D'Inverno's text, along with links to online articles and resources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on specific literature recommendations, and there are varying preferences for types of resources (books vs. online journals). The discussion remains open-ended with multiple viewpoints expressed.

Contextual Notes

Participants indicate limitations in their understanding of general relativity and Penrose diagrams, with some expressing a desire for more foundational knowledge before tackling the subject in depth.

M. Kohlhaas
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So here I'm begging for your suggestions. Thanks.
 
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What is your level of preparation? and what are you looking to learn?
Do you have access to online journals?
 
robphy said:
What is your level of preparation? and what are you looking to learn?
Do you have access to online journals?

My level of preparation is something like a desaster i would say. I haven't heard any lectures on general relativity. I just read some chapters in Malcolm Ludvigsen's general relativity and Carroll's spacetime and geometry, mainly the introductory parts on geometry and einstein's equation. They say some words about the diagrams but i would feel more comfortable with a somewhat more serious introduction. As far as i understood it, there exists something similar in electrodynamics. And about that I did have lectures. But my memory is already overwritten i guess...

Online journals... hm... i don't like that. I prefer books.
 
M. Kohlhaas said:
My level of preparation is something like a desaster i would say. I haven't heard any lectures on general relativity. I just read some chapters in Malcolm Ludvigsen's general relativity and Carroll's spacetime and geometry, mainly the introductory parts on geometry and einstein's equation. They say some words about the diagrams but i would feel more comfortable with a somewhat more serious introduction. As far as i understood it, there exists something similar in electrodynamics. And about that I did have lectures. But my memory is already overwritten i guess...

Online journals... hm... i don't like that. I prefer books.

Concerning the connection to electrodynamics, you might be thinking of conformal mapping diagrams... which do share some similarities with the conformal diagrams of Penrose.

Here is a not-so-technical reference: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0316483419/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Hawking & Ellis "Large Scale Structure of Spacetime" is certainly one reference.
In addition, there are sections by Penrose in Battelle Rencontres 1967 and Les Houches 1963 (http://relativity.livingreviews.org/refdb/record/3976)... and here is a journal article, available online, http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v10/i2/p66_1

D'Inverno's text http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Physics/Relativity/?view=usa&sf=toc&ci=9780198596868 might be useful.

Here are some other possibly useful references (online): http://relativity.livingreviews.org/Articles/lrr-2004-1/
http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/gr-qc/9707012
 
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