Finite Fields Homework: Showing K has q Elements

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating properties of finite fields, specifically showing that the set K, consisting of elements x in F satisfying x^q = x, forms a subfield with at most q elements. Participants engage in proving that if a divides b, then X^a - 1 divides X^b - 1, linking this to the roots of unity and their behavior in field extensions. There is confusion regarding the implications of roots and their multiplicities, particularly in the context of polynomial equations. The conversation highlights the challenge of connecting theoretical concepts with practical proofs, leading to frustration among participants. Ultimately, the focus remains on establishing the structure and characteristics of the finite field K.
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Homework Statement



Let q=pm and let F be a finite field with qn elements. Let K={x in F: xq=x}

(a) Show that K is a subfield of F with at most q elements.

(b) Show that if a and b are positive integers, and a divides b, then Xa-1 divides Xb-1

i. Conclude that q-1 divides qn-1 (in Z), and therefore
ii. Xq-X divides Xqn (in F[X])

(c) Use the fact that Xq-X divides Xqn-X, and the fact that every element of F is a root of Xqn-X, to show that K has exactly q elements.

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The Attempt at a Solution



(a) I have completed this part. Any element of F satisfies Xq-X so it was easy to show that a+b, ab, a-b, a/b are in K.

(b) since a divides b => b=a*s for some s a positive integer, but I don't see the connection with that in showing Xa-1 divides Xb-1
 
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For (b). Try to show that the roots of X^a-1 are also roots of X^b-1.
Note that the roots are roots of unity, and they form a cyclic group.
 
So because a and b are real numbers, the roots of unity are 1 and -1, right? So this implies Xa-1 divides Xb-1?
 
83956 said:
So because a and b are real numbers, the roots of unity are 1 and -1, right? So this implies Xa-1 divides Xb-1?

No, there can be more roots. But they lie in a field extension. In general, X^a-1 has exactly a roots (counting multiplicity).
 
Xa-1 has a roots
Xb-1 has b roots

but since a divides b b=a*s for some positive integer s

so set a=a*s => s=1 so the number of roots in each equation is the same

?
 
83956 said:
Xa-1 has a roots
Xb-1 has b roots

but since a divides b b=a*s for some positive integer s

so set a=a*s => s=1 so the number of roots in each equation is the same

?

Not really, that makes little sense.

Take a root c. It holds that c^a=1. Can you prove that c is a root of X^b-1??
 
Well Xb=1

so then ca=1 has a=b
 
83956 said:
Well Xb=1

so then ca=1 has a=b

No, a and b are fixed. they can be anything! They don't need to equal each other...
 
Ok I am thoroughly confused and getting frustrated...
 

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