A few questions about a ring of polynomials over a field K

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The discussion revolves around the ring of polynomials in two variables over a field K, specifically addressing the properties of the elements x and y, their relative primality, and the structure of the ring itself. The original poster seeks assistance with three specific tasks related to this topic.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of relative primality and suggest methods to demonstrate that x and y are relatively prime. There is a focus on equating coefficients of polynomials and the implications of polynomial degrees.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problems, particularly in terms of expanding polynomials and equating coefficients. Questions about the definitions and constraints of the polynomials p(x,y) and q(x,y) have been raised, indicating a need for clarification on the requirements of the problem.

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There is a mention of potential constraints on the polynomials in part (b) and a discussion about the implications of polynomial degrees in the context of the problem. Participants are exploring the definitions and properties without reaching a consensus on the approach to take.

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Homework Statement



Consider the ring of polynomails in two variables over a field K:

R=K[x,y]

a)Show the elements x and y are relatively prime

b) Show that it is not possible to write 1=p(x,y)x+q(x,y)ywith p,q \in R

c) Show R is not a principle ideal domain

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I'd like to give an attempt, but I have no idea on how to start.

I know that two elements a,b are relatively prime if the only integer that divides them is 1.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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For (a) you need to show that if ##x=p_x d## and ##y=p_y d## where ##p_x,p_y,d## are polynomials over K then ##d=1##.

Write each of the three polynomials as a finite sum of allowable terms, eg ##p_x=\sum_{i=0}^{m_x} \sum_{j=0}^{n_x} a_{ij}x^iy^j##.

Then multiply out and equate coefficients.

By the way, what is the meaning of ##p(x,y)## and ##q(x,y)## in (b)?
 
andrewkirk said:
For (a) you need to show that if ##x=p_x d## and ##y=p_y d## where ##p_x,p_y,d## are polynomials over K then ##d=1##.

Write each of the three polynomials as a finite sum of allowable terms, eg ##p_x=\sum_{i=0}^{m_x} \sum_{j=0}^{n_x} a_{ij}x^iy^j##.

Then multiply out and equate coefficients.

By the way, what is the meaning of ##p(x,y)## and ##q(x,y)## in (b)?
Hmm, ok. I see what I can do. Thanks!

p(x,y) and q(x,y) are polynomials in terms of x and y
 
DeldotB said:
p(x,y) and q(x,y) are polynomials in terms of x and y
Then they need to put more constraints on them for (b) to be true, because p(x,y)=1, q(x,y)=0 are two such polynomials that satisfy the equation. They are zero-order, but still polynomials.
 
ohh sorry, that's my bad, let me edit it...
 
Which terms do I equate? When the polynomials are expanded it looks pretty bad...
 
First try to prove that the ##order(pq)=order(p)+order(q)##, where ##order(f)## for polynomial ##f## is the highest sum of exponents. This is very easy for polynomials in a single variable. It's slightly harder for polynomials in two variables, but still very doable. Focus on the terms with the highest order in each of the two polynomials, but note that there may be more than one such term in each of them (eg ##x^2+xy+y^2##).

Once you have that, you know that if ##x=p_x d## the order of one of the factors must be 1 and that of the other must be zero. A polynomial of order zero is a constant, which is a unit (divisor of 1) in the ring of polynomials. That's all you need. Above, where I said in post #2 that you need to show that ##d=1##, I should have said you need to show that ##d## is a unit.
 

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