Undergrad Finitely Generated Modules and Maximal Submodules

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The discussion revolves around Proposition 6.1.2 from Paul E. Bland's "Rings and Their Modules," specifically its reliance on Zorn's Lemma and inductive sets. A key point raised is the necessity of demonstrating that the union of a chain of submodules is a proper submodule of M that contains N, as this establishes that any chain in S has an upper bound. The conversation highlights the distinction between finite and infinite chains, noting that while finite chains have a largest submodule, infinite chains may not, necessitating the use of the union as an upper bound. Participants confirm that the upper bound of the chain does not need to be part of the chain itself but must belong to S. This clarification emphasizes the importance of understanding the structure of submodules in finitely generated modules.
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I am reading Paul E. Bland's book, "Rings and Their Modules".

I am focused on Section 6.1 The Jacobson Radical ... ...

I need help with an aspect of Proposition 6.1.2 ... ...

Proposition 6.1.2 relies on Zorn's Lemma and the notion of inductive sets ... ... so I am providing a short note from Bland on Zorn's Lemma and inductive sets ... ... as follows:
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NOTE: My apologies for the poor quality of the above image - due to some over-enthusiastic highlighting of Bland's text
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Now, Proposition 6.1.2 reads as follows:

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Now ... in the above proof of Proposition 6.1.2, Bland writes the following:"... ... If ##\mathscr{C}## is a chain of submodules of ##\mathscr{S}##, then ##x_1 \notin \bigcup_\mathscr{C}## , so ##\bigcup_\mathscr{C}## is a proper submodule of ##M## and contains ##N##. Hence ##\mathscr{S}## is inductive ... ...My question is as follows: Why does Bland bother to show that ## \bigcup_\mathscr{C}## is a proper submodule of ##M## that contains ##N## ... presumably he is showing that any chain of submodules in ##\mathscr{S}## has an upper bound ... is that right?
... ... but why does he need to do this as the largest submodule in the chain would be an upper bound ... ... ?Hope someone can help ... ...

PeterNOTE: My apologies for not being able to exactly reproduce Bland's embellished S in the above text ...
 

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Math Amateur said:
... ... but why does he need to do this as the largest submodule in the chain would be an upper bound ... ... ?

Why would there be a largest one?
 
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micromass said:
Why would there be a largest one?
Well I was thinking of the finite case ... e.g. where for example, \mathcal{C} might be

##N'_1 \subseteq N'_2 \subseteq N'_3##

so ... ##N'_3## in this case is an upper bound on the chain ##\mathcal{C}## ... BUT ... your question me me think that my thinking does not cover the case of an infinite chain ...

In the case of an infinite chain there may be no largest submodule and so we need to have ##\bigcup_\mathcal{C} N'## as an upper bound ...Can you confirm that my thinking is now correct ...

Peter
 
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Yes.

The upper bound of ##\mathscr{C}## need not be in ##\mathscr{C}##, but is has to be in ##\mathscr{S}##.
 
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