First Area Moment and Centroidal Co-ordinates

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The problem involves finding the centroidal coordinates of a quarter circle, defined by the equation x² + y² = R², with the center at the origin (0,0). The original poster describes their understanding of first area moments and centroidal coordinates, mentioning their previous experience with simpler shapes like rectangles.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply their understanding of area moments to the quarter circle but struggles to derive an integrable form. Some participants suggest expressing the first moment of area M(y) as a double integral and question the appropriate limits of integration.

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Participants are actively engaging in the discussion, with some providing guidance on how to set up the integral for M(y). There is a focus on clarifying the limits of integration for the problem, indicating a productive exploration of the topic without reaching a consensus on the solution.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their understanding and seeks clarification, indicating they are in the early stages of learning about these concepts. There is a mention of their previous academic success, which may influence their confidence in tackling this problem.

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1.Homework Statement
There is a quarter circle.The centre of the circle of which the quarter circle is a part,is at the origin (0,0).Find the centroidal co-ordinates for the quarter circle.The equation of the circle for which the quarter circle is a part,is x2 +y2 = R2. where R is radius.

2.Relevant equations
M(y)= integral of (x dA), where dA is an elemental area at a distance x from Y axis.M(y) is first moment of inertia about y axis. X(c)= M(y)/A, where A is total area of quarter circle,and X(c) is the centroidal x co-ordinate.

3.The attempt at a solution
Well,i am in engineering first year and we have just started first area moment,centrodal co-ordinates,second area moment etc.So,i tried my best to understand the concepts.I did one where there is a rectangle with height h and base b.Thats easy.If we first choose a vertical strip of elementary area dA and width dx.Now,M(y)= integral of (x dA).Putting h dx in place of dA,we get an integrable equation.The limits of intigration is from 0 to b.Then,X(c)= M(y)/A.Putting the value of M(y) and A=bh,we get X(c).Similarly by choosing a horizontal strip we can get M(x),which is the first area moment about x axis.I tried to do the same for the quarter circle but I am not being able to get an integrable form.

4.Conclusion
Well,I have tried to show that I have attempted the problem and I do study.But since I'm not a genius,I need your help.Please explain the problem,because I may be a bit dumb,although I got very good marks in my school final exams.That time also,i had posted some questions on physics forums.Thanks a lot for everything...
 
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Start by expressing M(y) (your integral x*dA) as an explicit integral. It will be a double integral over x and y. What will be appropriate limits of integration?
 
Dick said:
Start by expressing M(y) (your integral x*dA) as an explicit integral. It will be a double integral over x and y. What will be appropriate limits of integration?

I'm sorry,but that is what I'm not being able to do.could u please explain it?The appropraite limits of integration will be from 0 to r,where r is radius of quarter circle.
 
Ok, let's integrate dx from 0 to R. Inside of that integral we have to integrate dy. To get the y range, picture a thin vertical rectangle at some value of x, stretching from the x-axis to the quarter circle (since that's the interior of the region of integration). Got it? So now if I said the y limits are from 0 (the x axis) to sqrt(R^2-x^2) (the circle), would you believe me?
 

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