First order linear PDE-the idea of characteristic curves

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of characteristic curves in the context of first order linear partial differential equations (PDEs). Participants explore how these curves relate to the general solution of the PDE and the implications of this relationship.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the idea that if u(x,y) is constant along the curves y² - x² = c, then the general solution can be expressed as u(x,y) = f(y² - x²), where f is an arbitrary differentiable function.
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding the significance of characteristic curves and their role in finding the general solution to the PDE.
  • A later reply explains that the level curves satisfy dy/dx = x/y, indicating that these curves are hyperbolas in the given example, and that any function with these level curves will be a solution to the PDE.
  • Examples of functions such as u(x,y) = exp(y² - x²) and u(x,y) = sin(y² - x²) are provided to illustrate that any differentiable function of (y² - x²) can serve as a solution.
  • Verification of the proposed solution u(x,y) = f(y² - x²) is discussed, showing how it satisfies the PDE.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the concept of characteristic curves and their implications. There is no consensus on the clarity of the explanation or the approach to the topic, as some participants find the different approaches confusing.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference differing approaches to characteristic equations found in various texts, indicating potential limitations in understanding due to varying definitions or methods presented in different sources.

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"Consider a first order linear PDE. (e.g. y ux + x uy = 0)
If u(x,y) is constant along the curves y2 - x2 = c, then this implies that the general solution to the PDE is u(x,y) = f(y2 - x2) where f is an arbitrary differentiable funciton of one variable. We call the curves along which u(x,y) is constant the characteristic curves."
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I don't understand the implication above highlighted in red. The idea of characteristic curves seems to be very important in solving first order linear PDEs, but I am never able to completely understand the idea of it. Why would finding the characteristic curves help us find the general solution to the PDE?

Thanks for explaining!
 
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For that link, they seem to be using a different approach. In particular, the characteristic equation is different and not matching that in my textbook...so I'm getting more confused(?) :(
 
kingwinner said:
"Consider a first order linear PDE. (e.g. y ux + x uy = 0)
If u(x,y) is constant along the curves y2 - x2 = c, then this implies that the general solution to the PDE is u(x,y) = f(y2 - x2) where f is an arbitrary differentiable funciton of one variable. We call the curves along which u(x,y) is constant the characteristic curves."
===============================

I don't understand the implication above highlighted in red. The idea of characteristic curves seems to be very important in solving first order linear PDEs, but I am never able to completely understand the idea of it. Why would finding the characteristic curves help us find the general solution to the PDE?

Thanks for explaining!

I admit it's a little tricky to see. You understand that for a solution u(x,y), the level curves satisfy dy/dx = x/y in your example and these curves are of the form y2-x2=c.

These happen to be hyperbolas in your example.

Now any function that has those level curves will be a solution to the PDE because the surface is made up of its level curves. Think of a mountain being the aggregate of its level curves (contour lines). Of course u(x,y) = y2-x2 is such a solution. But that is just one.

What about u(x,y) = exp(y2-x2)? It has the same type of level curves. Or sin(y2-x2).

In fact you can take any differentiable function of (y2-x2):

u(x,y) = f(y2-x2)

To verify this take

ux = f'(y2-x2)(-2x)
uy = f'(y2-x2))(2y)

dy/dx = - ux/uy = x/y

so u(x,y) = f(y2-x2) is a solution for any f.

Hope this helps. Sack time here.
 

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