First Year, College or University. Also a question about if Chemistry is needed

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The discussion revolves around the considerations for choosing between a college and a university for pursuing a degree in physics, as well as the necessity of chemistry in that academic path. Participants explore various factors such as class sizes, transferability between institutions, and the relevance of community college experience for admission to prestigious graduate programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether to attend a college or university, questioning the differences in class sizes and transfer processes between the two types of institutions.
  • Another participant notes that in the US, the terms "college" and "university" are often interchangeable, suggesting that class size may not be a significant factor in the long run.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of transferring between universities compared to transferring from a college to a university, with one participant sharing personal experience of transferring and the potential loss of credit for courses.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of chemistry for a physics degree, with some participants suggesting that at least one year of chemistry is typically required, while others emphasize that requirements may vary by institution.
  • One participant critiques another's writing style and expresses doubt about their clarity of purpose in pursuing a physics degree, leading to a defensive response regarding the quality of communication.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the importance of class size, the transfer process between colleges and universities, and the necessity of chemistry for a physics degree. There is no consensus on these issues, and participants express differing opinions and experiences.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that requirements for chemistry courses may differ by institution, and there are unresolved questions about the implications of attending community college versus university for future academic opportunities.

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I am planning to become a physicist. But here is my question. Next year I will be heading to a post-secondary institution; however, I am unable to decide whether I should go to a college or university.

Here are some problems

1. Money isn't a BIG concern, but it's always good to save up. Actually money is not a concern at all...

2. Are classes bigger in an University than in College, in terms of # of students per class

3. Is it actually difficult to transfer from another University to another University? Would it be easier to transfer from a college to a University?

4. This is probably a dumb question, but what are the chances of a student in studying in a community college that has a chance to go an Ivy League or any rich universities for his Ph.D?

Other question

1. OKay, so as I said before, I wanted to become a Physicist. However, I want to know how many years or what degree of Chemistry must I have to become one. I am taking AP chemistry right now because it is recommanded, but seriously, do I need Chemistry?

Also, I forgot to mention that I am taking the AP Exams in May
 
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i'm a little confused by your discrimination between "college" and "university". i know it is somewhat different abroad, but in the US the terms are by and large interchangeable. typically if there is a difference it is that the university is the whole institution, and the colleges are the departments that make it up.

class size varies from school to school. small, private schools will ALWAYS quote average class size and professor-to-student ratio in their advertising material. class size isn't important in my opinion. by the time you get to upper-level courses your classes will be small no matter where you go.

you really have to go to an accredited university if you want to be admitted to a good graduate department. this doesn't mean you have to pay a lot of money, though. large public universities often have very strong natural science and math departments because of the resources available at the school.

you will probably have to take at least some chemistry before you graduate college. when you think about it, chemistry is just applied physics, so there is some relevancy. in terms of basic requirements, though, it might just be general chemistry 1 and 2
 
I am Canadian
 
oh well then yes, i would advise going to a university if it can be helped. listen to someone from Canada, though, not me
 
flyingpig said:
1. Money isn't a BIG concern, but it's always good to save up. Actually money is not a concern at all...

What? So why mention it? You do have a delete key on your keyboard...

flyingpig said:
4. This is probably a dumb question, but what are the chances of a student in studying in a community college that has a chance to go an Ivy League or any rich universities for his Ph.D?

The chance will be very low if said student can't form proper sentences..

I don't mean to be rude, but after reading this post I got the impression that you have no idea what you want to do, or why.
 
whs said:
What? So why mention it? You do have a delete key on your keyboard...
The chance will be very low if said student can't form proper sentences..

I don't mean to be rude, but after reading this post I got the impression that you have no idea what you want to do, or why.

Sorry, I didn't realize I had to type with perfect grammar, spelling, and use complicated words that contains at least 18 letters just to explain my situation. I typed it up in like less than 3 minutes. So thank you for your criticism.
 
flyingpig said:
3. Is it actually difficult to transfer from another University to another University? Would it be easier to transfer from a college to a University?[/B]

I'm not sure how it is in Canada, but I transferred from a junior college (community college) to a university in Texas, and then from the university in Texas to a university in California. The only problem you run into is loosing credit for classes. Some schools have different guidelines for what information has to be in a course.

I would recommend talking to the school you plan to get your degree from and find out what community colleges they accept course credit from.
 
Also, from what I've seen, most schools want one year of chemistry for a physics degree. But that will change from school to school.
 
Legion81 said:
Also, from what I've seen, most schools want one year of chemistry for a physics degree. But that will change from school to school.

I am taking AP Chemistry, so that's all good...
 

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