Fixed Points and Stability Analysis of dy/dt = y(1-ky) and Modified Euler Scheme

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The discussion revolves around the fixed points and stability analysis of the differential equation dy/dt = y(1-ky), where k is a constant. Participants also explore the fixed points and stability of the modified Euler scheme applied to this equation.

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  • One participant presents a solution involving a substitution and transformation to find y = 1 / [k + Ce^(-t)], but questions whether their answer is complete.
  • Another participant suggests that the differential equation has been solved correctly but prompts for the identification of critical points and their stability.
  • A third participant identifies the fixed points as y = 0 and y = 1/k by setting dy/dt = 0, noting that for k = 0, y = 0 is the only fixed point.
  • Another participant confirms the fixed points and provides a method for stability analysis using the derivative f'(y) = 1 - 2ky, concluding that y = 0 is unstable and y = 1/k is stable, but seeks verification of their findings.

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Participants generally agree on the identification of fixed points but express uncertainty regarding the stability analysis and the completeness of the solutions presented. There is no consensus on the finality of the stability conclusions.

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Some participants mention the need for further calculations and checks on the stability of the modified Euler scheme, indicating that the discussion is still open and unresolved in certain aspects.

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For the equation dy/dt =y(1-ky), where k is a constant,find the fixed points and investigate their stability.
what are the fixed points of the modified Euler Scheme applied to this equation and what is their stability?
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dy / dt = y ( 1 - ky )
dy / dt = y - ky^2
dy / dt - y = - ky^2
Let v = y^( - 1 )
y = 1 / v
dy / dt = ( - 1 / v^2 ) * dv / dt

( - 1 / v^2)dv / dt - ( 1 / v ) = ( - k ) ( 1 / v)^2
(dv / dt ) + v = k
e^(t ) dv / dt + ( e^t )v = ke^t
(e^t )v = ke^t + C
v = k + Ce^(- t )

y = 1 / [ k + Ce^( - t ) ]

Can someone please help me after this. did I answer the question correctly? Is my answer incomplete?
 
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grandy said:
For the equation dy/dt =y(1-ky), where k is a constant,find the fixed points and investigate their stability.
what are the fixed points of the modified Euler Scheme applied to this equation and what is their stability?
=>

dy / dt = y ( 1 - ky )
dy / dt = y - ky^2
dy / dt - y = - ky^2
Let v = y^( - 1 )
y = 1 / v
dy / dt = ( - 1 / v^2 ) * dv / dt

( - 1 / v^2)dv / dt - ( 1 / v ) = ( - k ) ( 1 / v)^2
(dv / dt ) + v = k
e^(t ) dv / dt + ( e^t )v = ke^t
(e^t )v = ke^t + C
v = k + Ce^(- t )

y = 1 / [ k + Ce^( - t ) ]

Can someone please help me after this. did I answer the question correctly? Is my answer incomplete?


I believe you have solved the DE correctly (although I would have just separated the variables). Have you found the critical points yet? Have you checked their stability?
 
To find the fixed points, we set dy/dt=0 and find the roots, which yields:

y ( 1 - ky ) =0
that gives
y=0,y=1/k
An additional point of interest is k=0, in which case y=0 is the only fixed point.
is there any fixed point, that i need to calculate?
To investigate the stability, i would look at a direction field plot. but don't know how to calculate the stability.
 
i found out the fixed points, by setting dy/dt=0 and find the roots, which yields:y ( 1 - ky ) =0
that gives
y=0,y=1/k

To investigate the stability:
f'(y)= 1- 2ky
f'(0)= 1 >0 unstable
f'(1/k) = -1<0 stablekindly someone please check my answer for the fixed points and normal stabilityfor the modified euler scheme, i will try it after i got the above answer correct.
 

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