Flipping the polarity of a compass needle. Why does this work?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of flipping the polarity of a compass needle using external magnets. Participants explore the mechanics behind this effect, including the role of magnetic fields and interactions between the compass needle and the magnets. The scope includes theoretical explanations and experimental observations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a method involving two neodymium magnets and a breaking motion to flip the compass needle's polarity, suggesting that the repelling ends of the magnets are more effective than attracting ends.
  • Another participant clarifies that the polarity of the magnetic needle is not actually flipped; rather, the magnetic field around it is altered by the movement of the magnets.
  • A later reply reiterates that after the breaking motion, the magnets are removed, and the compass needle points in the opposite direction, indicating a change in its magnetic state.
  • Another participant proposes that the magnets may have magnetized the needle during the process, leading to the observed change in direction.
  • One participant introduces a formula related to the energy of interaction between the magnetic dipole of the needle and the external magnetic field, suggesting that the new orientation minimizes energy, resulting in the north end of the needle pointing south.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the polarity of the compass needle is actually flipped or if it is merely a change in the magnetic field. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact mechanism behind the observed phenomenon.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of magnetic fields and the behavior of magnetic dipoles may not be fully addressed. The discussion also lacks detailed exploration of the conditions under which the experiments were conducted.

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Awhile back I had been messing around with batteries, copper wiring, compasses and small neodymium magnets; during this time I figured out how to flip the polarity of a compass needle. The most reliable way was to hold the two magnets above the compass needle and force, as best I could, the two repelling ends together towards the center of the compass needle. Once they were close enough to the center of the compass needle I would apply a breaking motion (like snapping a stick in two). And the compass needle would reverse.

Also, doing this with both magnets attracting is considerably less reliable than when they are repelling. However the primary factor seems to be the breaking motion (whether forcing repelling ends towards the center, or letting attracting ends snap towards the center).

Of course my question is how this works.
 
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The magnetic needle aligns with the lines of the overall magnetic field in its presence. Whatever you do with the other two magnets, you do not flip the polarity of the magnetic needle, what you do is changing the magnetic field by moving your magnets.

See this picture (picture 2) with needles placed at various positions near a bar magnet.
 
DennisN said:
Whatever you do with the other two magnets, you do not flip the polarity of the magnetic needle, what you do is changing the magnetic field by moving your magnets.

Sorry if what I wrote was confusing... after the breaking motion the magnets are removed entirely and the north end of the needle then points south, and south north. At least until I repeat the experiment.
 
Ntstanch said:
Sorry if what I wrote was confusing... after the breaking motion the magnets are removed entirely and the north end of the needle then points south, and south north. At least until I repeat the experiment.

No problem. Ah, I see. Then the only explanation I can think of is that the two magnets have magnetized the needle (also some info here). Also, this clip shows how to magnetize a screwdriver with neodymium magnets.
 
The energy of interaction of the magnetic dipole of the needle and the external magnetic field is E=-\mu.B. When you put the magnets over the needle, you flipped the magnetic dipole, so its new direction is \mu'=-\mu and the energy is \mu'.B. The needle still orientates itself in the direction which minimises this energy, which is now with the north-labelled side pointing south.
 

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