Fluid - Work done to blow a soap bubble

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This discussion focuses on calculating the work done to blow a soap bubble to radius R, considering isothermal conditions, atmospheric pressure H, and surface tension γ. The work is divided into two components: A1, which accounts for the work done to inflate the bubble with two layers, calculated as A1 = 2(4γπR²), and A2, which involves the pressure p' = H + 4γ/R and is expressed as A2 = p'V ln(p'/H). Participants seek clarification on the dual-layer structure of soap bubbles and the use of the natural logarithm in the A2 equation.

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Hi everybody, I now encounter some problems when try to solve this:
Problem statement: Calculate the work done to blow a soap bubble to radius R. Knowing that the process is isotherm, the atmospheric pressure is H, the surface tension is γ.

Solution:
$$A = A_{1}+A_{2}$$
In which A1 is the work done to blow the bubble with 2 layers :
$$A_{1} = 2(4 \gamma πR^{2}) $$
A2 is the work done to blow the bubble to pressure p' = H + 4γ/R
$$A_{2}=p' V ln \dfrac{p'}{H}$$

The solution above is in my textbook, but I still help some questions
First, why the soap bubble has 2 layers, which leads to the Laplace pressure is 4γ/R?
Secondly, in A2 equation, why the ratio is natural logarithm is p' over H? In the isotherm, we have: $$\dfrac{V_{i}}{V_{f}}=\dfrac{p'}{H}$$
It doesn't match the formula used to calculate work done in the isotherm process.

Can anyone explain these problems in details for me?
Thanks a lot.
 
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huyhohoang said:
First, why the soap bubble has 2 layers, which leads to the Laplace pressure is 4γ/R?
A soap bubble is made of a thin film of water. The film has an outer surface and an inner surface.
http://www.webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/15E.html
Secondly, in A2 equation, why the ratio is natural logarithm is p' over H? In the isotherm, we have: $$\dfrac{V_{i}}{V_{f}}=\dfrac{p'}{H}$$
It doesn't match the formula used to calculate work done in the isotherm process.
It should match. Can you state the formula that you have in mind for the work done in an isothermal process?
 

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