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The problem involves two soap bubbles with different radii that come into contact and stick to each other. Participants are tasked with calculating the radius of curvature of the common surface between the bubbles, using the concept of excess pressure inside soap bubbles.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply a formula for excess pressure but questions the validity of their equation. Some participants question the assumptions regarding the radii and their signs, while others discuss the implications of pressure differences on the curvature of the common surface.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the behavior of the radii when the bubbles coalesce. There is an ongoing dialogue about the correct application of the pressure equations and the impact of the bubbles' interaction on their radii.

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There is a mention of the total amount of air inside each bubble being preserved, which adds complexity to the problem. Participants are also considering whether to account for changes in the radii due to the bubbles' contact.

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Homework Statement


Two soap bubbles of radii 3cm and 2cm come in contact and sticks to each other. Calculate the radius of curvature of common surface.

The Attempt at a Solution



Excess pressure inside soap bubble = 4T/R

Let the radius of common surface be R'

\dfrac{4T}{R'} = \dfrac{4T}{r_1} + \dfrac{4T}{r_2}

But this equation does not gives the correct answer.
 
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As far as I understand you notations, ... your equation must wrong, as can be seen from a simple case.
When two bubbles of same radius coalesce, the common surface that separate them is flat.
This is so because the pressure on both side will be the same.
Your equation does not predict that, as far as I understand you notations ...
What are the meaning of r1 and r2?
Are these numbers supposed to be always positive, or do they have an orientation (sign)?

The curvature of the common surface is related to the pressure difference across that surface.
 
maajdl said:
As far as I understand you notations, ... your equation must wrong, as can be seen from a simple case.
When two bubbles of same radius coalesce, the common surface that separate them is flat.
This is so because the pressure on both side will be the same.
Your equation does not predict that, as far as I understand you notations ...
What are the meaning of r1 and r2?
Are these numbers supposed to be always positive, or do they have an orientation (sign)?

The curvature of the common surface is related to the pressure difference across that surface.

OK. Let me make it more clear.
r1=3 r2=2

Since the radius of curvature of common surface is related to pressure difference

4T \left( | \frac{1}{r_1} - \frac{!}{r_2} | \right) = \frac{4T}{R'}

Am I correct this time?
 
No that's still wrong because the radii of the bubbles change when they coalesce. The total amount of air inside each bubble is preserved and if one side of it becomes flat due to the contact with another bubble than the radius of the remainder must expand in order to preserve the air content of the bubble.
 
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dauto said:
No that's still wrong because the radii of the bubbles change when they coalesce. The total amount of air inside each bubble is preserved and if one side of it becomes flat due to the contact with another bubble than the radius of the remainder must expand in order to preserve the air content of the bubble.

So how do I find the new radius?
 
utkarshakash said:
4T \left( | \frac{1}{r_1} - \frac{!}{r_2} | \right) = \frac{4T}{R'}
The original equation is fine - you just have to remember that from the perspective of the common boundary one of r1 and r2 is negative. In fact, the sign of the result tells you which way the common boundary will bulge.

dauto said:
No that's still wrong because the radii of the bubbles change when they coalesce. The total amount of air inside each bubble is preserved and if one side of it becomes flat due to the contact with another bubble than the radius of the remainder must expand in order to preserve the air content of the bubble.
Technically, yes, but I think you're expected to ignore that here.
 

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