Building a Flying Ship: Calculating Necessary Horsepower

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The discussion centers on calculating the horsepower (HP) required to lift a flying ship, specifically focusing on the relationship between lift, weight, and engine power. Key factors include the airfoil design, drag coefficient, and propulsion efficiency, which all influence the power needed for flight. The participant is developing an electric engine for a lightweight ship concept, weighing approximately 16 pounds, and seeks to optimize horsepower for effective lift. The conversation highlights the challenges of achieving flight with current technology, referencing existing flying vehicles like the Moler flying car.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of lift and weight dynamics in aviation
  • Knowledge of airfoil design principles
  • Familiarity with propulsion systems, particularly electric engines
  • Basic principles of aerodynamics, including drag coefficients
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  • Explore advanced electric propulsion systems for aviation
  • Study the design and performance of airfoils
  • Investigate existing flying vehicles and their engineering challenges
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Aerospace engineers, hobbyists in flight design, and anyone interested in the mechanics of flying vehicles will benefit from this discussion.

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im working on a ship that can fly; simple yes . well having a little trubble tring to found out how mutch HP is needed to lift one pound in the air. I am making the engine my self i can't really give to mutch information at this point in time becouse I am still working on the frame work for the ship
 
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My car has 170HP and it can't lift anything in the air.
 
The horsepower required by your engine cannot be determined so simply; we cannot answer the question.

In order for your ship to fly, it needs to produce as much lift as its entire weight. In order to produce lift, it will need to use some kind of an airfoil, which will presumably require that the ship be moving through the air (like an airplane), or for the airfoil to be moving through the air (like a helicopter). In either case, you need to figure out how much power is required to push the airfoil through the air at the speed needed to generate the required lift. This depends upon the airfoil design, the drag coefficient of the ship, the efficiency of your means of propulsion, and all kinds of other factors which we cannot deduce from your post.

- Warren
 
for one thing I am not making a car fly lol would be cool to see one fly. I am working on an electric engine so i kinda need to know how mutch HP is needed to lift a pound in the air the least amount that way i have a extra HP needed for extra poundage
 
ok ill give a little more of a detail I am more of a fantasy guy that like to see something that would never be done it more like boat with four engine 2 on left and right side two more engines on the back like a plane would have in a front but in the back that will push it forword it would move up like a choper would let say the intire thing is 16 pounds and a standor sale boat no sales
 
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i think you need to slow down and formulate your thoughts a little better
 
Pretty little concept, but unless you are going to make the thing incredibly light or have some sort of advanced engines with EXTREMELY high hp to weight you are out of luck.

The flying boats I've seen are all ground effect aircraft or pontoon planes.

If you doubt me, look up the Moler flying car. Pretty much outlines the engine configuration you have, and then dang thing still doesn't work with today's technology.
 
there always a balloon i can add on top or have it shoot out the exzess heat from below to reduce it; making it less heavy. i was thinking about how mutch power would be needed for it i was also tring to keep it light. right now it's less then 5 ounce. it a small version right now. I am trying to make it less then 8 pounds that way the the engines can be mounted
 

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