Focal length of concave lens using convex lens

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The discussion revolves around determining the focal length of a concave lens that is used in conjunction with a convex lens. The original poster describes a scenario involving a convex lens with a known focal length and the introduction of a concave lens to alter the image position.

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  • Participants explore the calculations related to the image distances produced by the convex and concave lenses. There are questions regarding the sign conventions used for the distances and the expected behavior of the image formed by the concave lens.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the assumptions made about image distances and the nature of the concave lens. Some have expressed uncertainty about the calculations and are considering revisiting their reasoning.

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There is mention of a discrepancy between the calculated focal length of the concave lens and the answer provided in a textbook, prompting further discussion about the assumptions and calculations involved.

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# A convex lens of focal length 10 cm forms a real image of an object placed at a distance of 20 cm from it. Midway between the convex lens and the position of the image a thin concave lens is introduced. The image formed now is at a distance of 5 cm away from the earlier position. What is the focal length of the concave lens?
I solved it in the following way:
Case-1
Let u, v and f be the object distance, image distance and the focal length of the convex lens.
Here u = 20 cm, f = + 10 cm
1/v = 1/f – 1/u
1/v= 1/10 – 1/20
v = 20 cm
Case- 2
Let u, v and f be the object distance, image distance and the focal length of the concave lens.
Here u = - 10(virtual object), v = + 15 cm
1/f = -1/10 + 1/15
f = - 30 cm
But the answer given in my book is – 5 cm.
 
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I don't get 5 cm either.

But I think you made a mistake with setting v=15cm in the second part. Would you expect the image for a concave lens to be 5cm closer to the lens or 5cm farther from it (compared to the object)?
 
I assumed it to be away because i felt that concave lens is diverging in nature and so the image would be produced 5 cm away from the lens. What do you say?
 
That sounds right (that the image would be farther away). There must be a mistake with the way I was doing it. I'm too sleepy to think straight now. I'll look at this again when I find some free time. Meanwhile someone else might have something useful to say.
 

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