Food as Software and the end of livestock

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The discussion centers on the future of food production, particularly the potential of lab-grown proteins and alternatives to traditional livestock. Key references include the RethinkX Food and Agriculture Report and the concept of using bacteria to create proteins, which may enhance food security and reduce CO2 emissions. The conversation critiques the limitations of current alternatives, such as the Impossible Burger, highlighting the complexity of replicating the diverse chemical structures found in traditional foods. Ultimately, the feasibility of producing complex food alternatives through tissue culturing is questioned, suggesting that simpler food solutions may be more economically viable.

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This is a futurist site, curious about how far away this really is

Huge benefits to food security, CO2 emissions, public health etc

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2019/...-is-going-to-radically-change-your-world.html
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My impression after glancing at this is that they want to make proteins in bacteria to replace/supplement normal foods.
They claim economic benefits.

This seems to me, to be a kind of one dimensional version of food, in particular meat which they reference in the Impossible burger. "Normal" foods are derived from tissues, which cellular structures made of a vast assortment of different proteins, as well as other chemicals, like lipids and carbohydrates. This does not fall out of cultures producing a single kind of protein (or a few) in vast amounts. They would have to combined in some detailed manner to generate equivalent textures.
The impossible burger uses as starting material biological tissue from non-animal sources (but with a cellular structure containing their own complex chemical mixtures.
Perhaps, in the future, growing up only knowing non-textured foods would reduce the economic importance that difference.

Alternatively, you could grow tissue cultures of metazoan cells.
This would be much more difficult and produce cells at much lower densities.
More labor and more costly.
Its hard to believe that growing a crop (perhaps genetically redesigned) to generate a useful component for some complex "artificial" food, like the impossible burger, would not be cheaper ($/Kg) then metazoan tissue culturing it.

Simpler food, OK.
 
That was the world’s longest advertisement for protein powder.
 
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I think we got the point. Thread closed. Really close to too speculative for PF.
 

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