For Democrats: Who would you love to see as president?

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The discussion revolves around potential Democratic candidates for the presidency following George Bush's tenure, with participants expressing their preferences and concerns regarding various figures, particularly Barack Obama, Mark Warner, and Robert Byrd. The scope includes political opinions, candidate evaluations, and reflections on the Democratic Party's direction.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses strong support for Barack Obama, citing his presence, intelligence, and ability to unite people as key qualities for a presidential candidate.
  • Another participant strongly opposes Obama, criticizing his stance on military action and suggesting that his approach could lead to more violence and imperialism, referencing specific statements he made regarding Iran and Pakistan.
  • A different participant suggests Mark Warner as a preferable candidate, highlighting his experience as a governor and his perceived effectiveness in that role.
  • Another participant expresses admiration for Robert Byrd, suggesting he would be a worthy candidate despite doubts about his desire to run for president.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are multiple competing views regarding the suitability of Barack Obama, with some supporting him and others expressing significant concerns about his policies. Preferences for other candidates like Mark Warner and Robert Byrd also indicate a lack of agreement on a single ideal candidate.

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Participants' opinions are influenced by their perceptions of candidates' past statements and actions, which may not fully encompass their overall political positions or potential as presidential candidates.

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After Bush is gone, who do you think would be the best person or a wish list person for president and why?

He already said he is not running in '08, but I say Barak Obama. I think he has the presence, the intelligence, the pragmatism, and the right ideas. He seems to be a guy who can bring together a lot of people and make them see the reasonable path ahead.
 
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if i were american i wouldn't want barack obama as president.

Each month I think I'm going to stop beating up on Kerry and the Democrats because it makes me sad myself to think that there's no honorable and viable alternative to Emperor George or the Republicans. Then I read about the Democrat's rising star, Barack Obama, Senate candidate and almost certain winner in Illinois, keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention. He declared that he would favor the use of missile strikes against Iran if it failed to bow to Washington's demand that it cease its alleged nuclear weapons program. Obama also said that in the event of a coup that removed the Musharraf regime in Pakistan, the US should attack that nation's nuclear arsenal. (Chicago Tribune Sept 25 04) Very nice, Barack. Just what this violence-plagued, tired old world needs, more death and destruction, more Iraqs and Afghanistans, more pre-emptive wars of aggression, more imperial arrogance. Obama is clearly showing that he's presidential material by meeting the first requirement for that office: no inhibitions about killing large numbers of innocent and defenseless foreign people. Oh yes, he said the missile strikes against Iran would be "surgical". Even as I write this, the cemeteries of Fallujah are filling up with cases of surgical malpractice.
-- Bill Blum, Anti-Empire Report Oct 24 2004
 
Meh, by 2008 I might be a Democrat. :rolleyes:

I think Mark Warner would be the best Democratic candidate. He's an (ex)-governor and governors have a natural advantage over Senators. Not only is he a governor, he was easily one of the top five governors in the US, if not the best.
 
He'll never leave the Senate and I doubt he'd even want to be president, but I'd love to see Robert Byrd give it a shot. He's been my favorite democrat in any branch of the government for a very long time.
 
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if i were american i wouldn't want barack obama as president.
Each month I think I'm going to stop beating up on Kerry and the Democrats because it makes me sad myself to think that there's no honorable and viable alternative to Emperor George or the Republicans. Then I read about the Democrat's rising star, Barack Obama, Senate candidate and almost certain winner in Illinois, keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention. He declared that he would favor the use of missile strikes against Iran if it failed to bow to Washington's demand that it cease its alleged nuclear weapons program. Obama also said that in the event of a coup that removed the Musharraf regime in Pakistan, the US should attack that nation's nuclear arsenal. (Chicago Tribune Sept 25 04) Very nice, Barack. Just what this violence-plagued, tired old world needs, more death and destruction, more Iraqs and Afghanistans, more pre-emptive wars of aggression, more imperial arrogance. Obama is clearly showing that he's presidential material by meeting the first requirement for that office: no inhibitions about killing large numbers of innocent and defenseless foreign people. Oh yes, he said the missile strikes against Iran would be "surgical". Even as I write this, the cemeteries of Fallujah are filling up with cases of surgical malpractice.
-- Bill Blum, Anti-Empire Report Oct 24 2004

He actually said that! If he actually means it, I would infinitely prefer him over many modern presidents to date.
 

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