The forum discussion centers on the unexpected popularity of Donald Trump among conservatives, particularly as the Iowa caucus approaches. Participants highlight that Trump's appeal stems from his ability to resonate with feelings of oppression among conservatives, his high name recognition, and his charismatic persona. Many express concern that his candidacy may undermine the GOP's image, likening the nomination process to a reality-show circus. The conversation also touches on broader themes of political dissatisfaction, media bias, and the influence of wealthy donors in American politics.
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StevieTNZ said:As for the US/Mexican wall, I have no clue how he is going to get the Mexican Government to pay for it. They haven't offered to pay for it, so how is that going to be achieved? Fine - you're going get a wall built, but how are you going to get the money?
That, to me, would sound like blackmail.Greg Bernhardt said:Withhold foreign aid?
We never know, because he doesn't elaborate. He needs to start doing so.gleem said:Perhaps Trumps means it more in the way of " you'll pay for it" by withdrawing US manufacturers from Mexico so some such economic maneuver.
You don't think we do it all the time?StevieTNZ said:That, to me, would sound like blackmail.
Rick21383 said:That's a great question.
The blatant dishonesty and coordination of the attacks from groups that were not allies before (liberal media pundits + wall street executives + Bush era neocons for example) really makes you wonder what they're so afraid of and maybe is it the impending loss of a rigged system
That smarmy screed from John Oliver, back to back with this Romney nonsense really put the final nail in the coffin for me.
There's a parade of libs reposting the Oliver bit, where he uses mean-spirited "humor" to point out that Trump isn't self financing, but is accepting voluntary $7.00 donations from little old ladies as some kind of dig *against* Trump, in a political environment where Goldman Sachs is shoveling money to candidates in both parties to maintain the status quo. And somehow, it's the guy with the financial support of little old ladies who is corrupt? F.U., John Oliver.
And then, these supposedly pro-immigrant libs want to use the man's grandfather's foreign-sounding name against him?
Then we have 4 days of wall to wall coverage of TRUMP REFUSES TO DENY KKK ENDORSEMENT, immediately following Trump's explicit disavowal of David Duke.
At a certain point you just have to look at the circus and be like "you people left all your principles at the door, and you are slaves to a global corporate elite that feels threatened. At this point, I may just vote for Trump. I'm done with the establishment, and I think many people are with me.
How could he or anyone force manufacturers to leave Mexico or any other country?gleem said:Perhaps Trumps means it more in the way of " you'll pay for it" by withdrawing US manufacturers from Mexico so some such economic maneuver.
anorlunda said:So Romney and everyone else (including most people on this thread) attack Trump, and fail to address the wants of Trump supporters. I don't know how many they are, 30? 40? 50? 60? 70 million? Some say they include Democrats. The point is that this a huge fraction of the voting public, and they are sick of being ignored and called stupid. Turtlemeister's comment illustrates this. IMO, it is a grave political mistake to ignore them.
Why shouldn't Trump supporters say "burn, baby, burn" to the American political system, the American democracy system, and the American government?
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With punitive tariffs and taxes.WWGD said:How could he or anyone force manufacturers to leave Mexico or any other country?
How likely are those laws of passing, given the amount of commerce with Mexico? Would senators from states doing business with Mexico go along?Dotini said:With punitive tariffs and taxes.
Yeah, good question. I cannot calculate it. I suppose it would depend upon the magnitude of economic distress of the voters in each particular state, when the legislators are up for reelection, and so forth.WWGD said:How likely are those laws of passing, given the amount of commerce with Mexico? Would senators from states doing business with Mexico go along?