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The discussion centers on the unexpected persistence of Donald Trump's popularity in the lead-up to the Iowa caucus, with many questioning the reasons behind his support. Key points include the perception among conservatives that they feel marginalized and oppressed by the current political climate and media representation. Trump's appeal is attributed to his outsider status, charisma, and willingness to voice controversial opinions that resonate with voters frustrated by traditional politicians. Participants express concern that Trump's candidacy may undermine the GOP's image, likening the nomination process to a reality show. There is a recognition that Trump's rhetoric channels widespread anger and dissatisfaction, particularly regarding issues like immigration and economic decline. The conversation also touches on the broader political landscape, comparing Trump's rise to that of Bernie Sanders on the left, highlighting a growing discontent with the political establishment across the spectrum.
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StevieTNZ said:
As for the US/Mexican wall, I have no clue how he is going to get the Mexican Government to pay for it. They haven't offered to pay for it, so how is that going to be achieved? Fine - you're going get a wall built, but how are you going to get the money?

Perhaps Trumps means it more in the way of " you'll pay for it" by withdrawing US manufacturers from Mexico so some such economic maneuver.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Withhold foreign aid?
That, to me, would sound like blackmail.
 
  • #333
gleem said:
Perhaps Trumps means it more in the way of " you'll pay for it" by withdrawing US manufacturers from Mexico so some such economic maneuver.
We never know, because he doesn't elaborate. He needs to start doing so.
 
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StevieTNZ said:
That, to me, would sound like blackmail.
You don't think we do it all the time?
 
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Rick21383 said:
That's a great question.

The blatant dishonesty and coordination of the attacks from groups that were not allies before (liberal media pundits + wall street executives + Bush era neocons for example) really makes you wonder what they're so afraid of and maybe is it the impending loss of a rigged system

That smarmy screed from John Oliver, back to back with this Romney nonsense really put the final nail in the coffin for me.

There's a parade of libs reposting the Oliver bit, where he uses mean-spirited "humor" to point out that Trump isn't self financing, but is accepting voluntary $7.00 donations from little old ladies as some kind of dig *against* Trump, in a political environment where Goldman Sachs is shoveling money to candidates in both parties to maintain the status quo. And somehow, it's the guy with the financial support of little old ladies who is corrupt? F.U., John Oliver.

And then, these supposedly pro-immigrant libs want to use the man's grandfather's foreign-sounding name against him?

Then we have 4 days of wall to wall coverage of TRUMP REFUSES TO DENY KKK ENDORSEMENT, immediately following Trump's explicit disavowal of David Duke.

At a certain point you just have to look at the circus and be like "you people left all your principles at the door, and you are slaves to a global corporate elite that feels threatened. At this point, I may just vote for Trump. I'm done with the establishment, and I think many people are with me.

I think the point many have made, both here and elsewhere, is that, while the status quo is corrupt and needs to be changed, Trump is not much better than it, if better at all. BTW, John Kasich looked reasonable in the last debate.

And it doesn't seem right for you to accuse those who do not act in a way you agree with, of not having principles, or of acting in an unprincipled way.
 
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gleem said:
Perhaps Trumps means it more in the way of " you'll pay for it" by withdrawing US manufacturers from Mexico so some such economic maneuver.
How could he or anyone force manufacturers to leave Mexico or any other country?
 
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anorlunda said:
So Romney and everyone else (including most people on this thread) attack Trump, and fail to address the wants of Trump supporters. I don't know how many they are, 30? 40? 50? 60? 70 million? Some say they include Democrats. The point is that this a huge fraction of the voting public, and they are sick of being ignored and called stupid. Turtlemeister's comment illustrates this. IMO, it is a grave political mistake to ignore them.

Why shouldn't Trump supporters say "burn, baby, burn" to the American political system, the American democracy system, and the American government?

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Maybe find something more constructive than just saying "Destroy it All" and propose solutions?
 
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WWGD said:
How could he or anyone force manufacturers to leave Mexico or any other country?
With punitive tariffs and taxes.
 
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Dotini said:
With punitive tariffs and taxes.
How likely are those laws of passing, given the amount of commerce with Mexico? Would senators from states doing business with Mexico go along?
 
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WWGD said:
How likely are those laws of passing, given the amount of commerce with Mexico? Would senators from states doing business with Mexico go along?
Yeah, good question. I cannot calculate it. I suppose it would depend upon the magnitude of economic distress of the voters in each particular state, when the legislators are up for reelection, and so forth.
 
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