For what values of p does the series converge?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the series Σn=2 1/(n^p)(ln n), specifically seeking the values of p for which the series converges.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of the comparison test and the implications of the logarithmic factor in relation to p-series convergence. There is a suggestion that the logarithmic term may not significantly affect convergence.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about their conclusions regarding convergence for p>1, while others reflect on the common outcomes seen in p-series problems. The conversation indicates a mix of exploration and validation of reasoning.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the comparison of terms is valid for n > 1, and there is an acknowledgment of the typical outcomes in p-series problems, suggesting a potential bias in problem selection for educational contexts.

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Homework Statement


For what values of p does the series converge?


Homework Equations


Σn=2 1/(n^p)(ln n)


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So far, all that is available to me is the integral test, the comparison test and the limit comparison test.

So using the comparison test. 1/(n^p)(ln n) < 1/n^p

1/n^p is a p series and only converges when p>1. So it converges.

But this doesn't feel right :(
 
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limonysal said:
So using the comparison test. 1/(n^p)(ln n) < 1/n^p

1/n^p is a p series and only converges when p>1. So it converges.

But this doesn't feel right :(

This is fine: the comparison of terms is valid for n > 1 (so the summation in the series would have to start at n = 2).

In having looked at a fair number of these p-series related problems, I've come to think of the contribution of a (ln n) factor as equivalent to adding zero to the p exponent when conducting the "p-test"; the natural logarithm in such series seems to make a negligible contribution to the convergence of the series.
 
ah i meant to add in so it converges for p>1

its just that all the p series problems usually end up with p>1 XD
 
limonysal said:
ah i meant to add in so it converges for p>1

its just that all the p series problems usually end up with p>1 XD

That's largely because of the problems authors tend to choose for courses making a first pass through material on infinite series. Not all p-series one may encounter turn out that way... ;-)
 

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