Force and acceleration leading to weight of a parachutist

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to force and acceleration, specifically in the context of a parachutist's weight and the effects of different parachute sizes on upward force. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the correct answer to a question from a past paper, particularly concerning the implications of acceleration and the role of an 'extra-large parachute'.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration, questioning the reasoning behind the provided answers. They explore the concept of upward force versus net force and the impact of parachute area on drag force, particularly in relation to the 'extra-large parachute'.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered clarifications regarding the focus on upward force rather than net force. There is an exploration of how parachute size affects drag force, with some participants suggesting that the extra-large parachute's area may be excessive for achieving the same drag force as the normal parachute. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants engaging in reasoning and questioning assumptions.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of missing information regarding the area of the 'extra-large parachute', which complicates the analysis. The original poster also references a mark scheme that indicates a specific answer, which raises questions about the assumptions made in the problem.

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Homework Statement



http://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/olympiad/Downloads/PastPapers/BPhO_PC_2008_QP.pdf

Question 8

Homework Equations



f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



Sure since f=ma
A) would have force of 0, since there is no acceleration
B) force would be 800N
C) force of 0N
D) force of 0N
E) Force of 1000N (10 m/s^2 due to gravity)

so surely E would be the answer? I just don't understand why A is the answer (it is in the mark scheme that A is the answer).

Plus, how on Earth do you add in the 'extra-large parachute' thing?

Any help would be great thanks
 
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well, remember that the question is just asking for the one with the largest upward force, not the one with the largest net force.

And remember which direction the force of gravity points.
 
SHISHKABOB said:
well, remember that the question is just asking for the one with the largest upward force, not the one with the largest net force.

And remember which direction the force of gravity points.

Well drag = kAv^2

But for some of the parachutes we don't know the area of 'extra-large' so what can we do?

(if we ignore extra-large etc, A is right, thank you very much for your help)
 
well if you look at kAv2, we can see that the velocity has the largest impact on the force

let's say the normal parachute has area A. Let's also ignore k for the moment since I assume it's the same for each parachute.

So for each of them (other than E) we have 36A, A, 16A and then 4 times the area of the large parachute.

The extra large parachute would have to be nine times as large as the normal parachute to get the same amount of drag force. Since nine times the area is a bit excessive, I'd go with answer A.
 
SHISHKABOB said:
well if you look at kAv2, we can see that the velocity has the largest impact on the force

let's say the normal parachute has area A. Let's also ignore k for the moment since I assume it's the same for each parachute.

So for each of them (other than E) we have 36A, A, 16A and then 4 times the area of the large parachute.

The extra large parachute would have to be nine times as large as the normal parachute to get the same amount of drag force. Since nine times the area is a bit excessive, I'd go with answer A.

Thank you very much, problem resolved :)
 

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