Force as a Function of Velocity (Lorentz Force)

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a singly charged lithium ion accelerated by an electric field and subsequently moving through a magnetic field, resulting in circular motion. The participants explore how to determine the radius of the ion's circular path, which is stated to be 7.06 cm.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between centripetal acceleration and the forces acting on the ion, particularly the Lorentz force. There are inquiries about proving specific force equations and clarifications regarding the nature of the forces involved in the ion's motion.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the forces acting on the ion and how they relate to its motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations involved, but there is no explicit consensus on the proofs or interpretations being explored.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of the electric and magnetic fields on the ion's trajectory, questioning assumptions about force relationships and the definitions of terms used in the context of the problem.

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A singly charged lithium ion is accelerated by an electric field E=10i V/m applied between two plates ten centimeters apart. After passing through a small hole in the negative plate, the ion enters a region of space where there is a magnetic field B=5j mT. The ion moves in a circular path. What is the radius of this circle? The answer to this problem is 7.06 cm. How is this found?
 
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If it moves in a circular path, it means all the force exerted on the particle is doing centripetal acceleration on it. Do you know the formulae relating radial acceleration and linear acceleration and the one for the Lorentz force?

During the first part of the particle's trajectory, it is simply accelerated with an E-field, and the B-field is zero. Then, having gained some velocity, it enters a non-zero magnetic field, but a zero electric field, and this is where it starts to go round in circles. You need to relate the force exerted on the particle by the B-field to the centripetal acceleration it's experiencing by going in a circle. You should find that the equations are only consistent if the radius is your stated answer.
 
How do you prove the following?

force=-(del velocity)


please anyone answer me.
 
astronomophosis said:
A singly charged lithium ion is accelerated by an electric field E=10i V/m applied between two plates ten centimeters apart. After passing through a small hole in the negative plate, the ion enters a region of space where there is a magnetic field B=5j mT. The ion moves in a circular path. What is the radius of this circle? The answer to this problem is 7.06 cm. How is this found?
As masudr indicated, the Li+ ion is accelerated across the potential, where F = qE, and the energy gained is just F*d. Then in the magnetic field, the particle of velocity v is subjected to a force q(v x B) where v x B is the cross product of the velocity and magnetic field. The resulting Lorentz force equals the centripetal force.
 

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