Force = Mass x Acceleration + Gravity?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Newton's second law of motion, specifically the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration, while considering the role of gravity in various scenarios. Participants explore how gravity interacts with acceleration in problems involving forces.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants discuss whether to include gravitational acceleration in force calculations, with some questioning the necessity of adding gravity to the given acceleration. There is exploration of vector components and the implications of direction in force calculations.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their interpretations and understanding of the concepts. Some guidance on vector addition and the conditions under which gravity should be considered has been provided, but no consensus has been reached regarding the specific application of gravity in the original problem.

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Participants are working within the context of introductory physics, with varying levels of understanding regarding the treatment of forces and accelerations. There is mention of one-dimensional forces and the implications of vector directions in force calculations.

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Homework Statement



Well, i am wondering the impact gravity has on any word problems involving a given acceleration. For instance, if a baseball weighs 1 kg and it accelerates at 2 m/s^2 what is its force?

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f = ma


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Would the force = 1 * 2 or would it equal 1(2 + 9.8) ?
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additionally, in general am I going to want to add gravity to all force = ma problems? Thanks!
 
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F=ma is actually ƩF (sum of forces) = ma
 
hm, so then the force would equal 1(9.8 + 2) ?
 
why do you put 9.8? since the given acceleration is already 2...
And in fact you need to speak for VECTORS which means that magnitude alone does not give the full information needed.
If you speak for directions, then you can know if you can "add" or not.
 
I'm confused whether or not you need to add gravity. I'm a high school student, taking an introductory physics course, so I am still learning the basics, but so far my professor stresses that gravity is an acceleration. So I figured you need to add it to the given acceleration. Am I completely wrong?
 
depends on the motion.
When someone is introducing quantities like force, acceleration, velocity, displacement , etc stops talking about magnitudes alone (like mass) but speaks about direction as well.

It is what we call vectors.

You add them when they are parallel, you take their difference when they are anti-parallel, and when they have a general angle between them you use the Pythagora's Theorem.
 
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I see, well right now we're strictly doing one dimensional forces.
 
Still think of what happens when you throw something towards the ceiling. It will fall down because of gravity, while you gave it an initial velocity against the gravity.
What happens when you drop something towards the ground. It will fall faster. Etc.
That way you can think about - or + (antiparallel/parallel).
 
+ what iRaid said:
Sum of Forces= m *Sum of Accelerations

So you can divide sum of forces in its components: F1,F2,F3,... in how many you have, which are caused by the accelerations A1,A2,A3,... how many you have.

(F1+F2+F3+...)= m (A1+A2+A3+...)
here you have 2...
 

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