Force needed to move a conducting bar on a wire U-loop in a magnetic field

In summary, a 4 ton mass would need to exert a 53 hp force to keep from being pulled towards a 100 T magnetic field.
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Homework Statement


Hello all, not really sure what to title this. Heres the question:
Ceicil sets a trap. According to ceicil, all she has to do is somehow attach a conductive bar with resistance 1Ω to the turkey and then get it to walk along a wire loop in a region of 100T magnetic field (as shown in turkeyforce.jpg). Ceicil estimates that the turkey will be walking at 1.00m/s. How much force would the turkey need to exert on the bar to be able to continue at this speed?

Homework Equations


Lets call the dimensions of the box (that the turkey's bar) l for "y-component" and x for x component. The "y" component is actually given to us in the problem (2m).
ε=##\frac{-dΦb}{dt}##= ##\frac{-BdA}{dt}##=##\frac{-Bdlx}{dt}##=##\frac{-Bldx}{dt}##=-Blv
F=ILxB
ΔV=IR

The Attempt at a Solution


If you push to the right (or in our case the turkey runs to the right at a given velocity) the turkey will experience a force in the opposite direction
I=##\frac{Blv}{R}##

F=##\frac{Blvlb}{R}##=##\frac{B^2l^2v}{R}##

As we can see the amount of "x" the turkey goes does not affect our problem. (is this because there is a uniform magnetic field?)

F=##\frac{100T^22m^21m/s^2}{1Ω}##=4*10^4N?

Not completely solid with these topics... how does this look?
 

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Looks good.
 
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awesome! thanks a bunch @gneill :)
 
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gneill said:
Looks good.
However the problem is totally silly. A force of 40 kN is roughly the weight of of a 4-ton mass and the turkey's metabolism would have to produce 40 kW or 53 hp, not to mention that a 100 T steady magnetic field requires extraordinary equipment to generate and only over a small volume. It's also not clear how this gadget would work as a trap. I am totally against physics problems that expect one to suspend disbelief so far beyond reason. :oldgrumpy:
 
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FAQ: Force needed to move a conducting bar on a wire U-loop in a magnetic field

1. What is the relationship between the force needed and the magnetic field strength?

The force needed to move a conducting bar on a wire U-loop in a magnetic field is directly proportional to the strength of the magnetic field. This means that as the magnetic field strength increases, the force required to move the bar also increases.

2. How does the orientation of the bar affect the force needed?

The orientation of the bar does not affect the force needed to move it in a magnetic field. The force is dependent only on the strength of the magnetic field and the current flowing through the wire.

3. What is the role of the current in determining the force needed?

The current flowing through the wire creates a magnetic field around the wire. This magnetic field interacts with the external magnetic field, resulting in a force on the conducting bar. The greater the current, the stronger the magnetic field and therefore, the greater the force needed to move the bar.

4. Is the force needed the same for all types of conducting bars?

No, the force needed may vary depending on the material and shape of the conducting bar. Different materials have different levels of electrical conductivity and resistance, which can affect the strength of the magnetic field produced by the current and therefore, the force needed to move the bar.

5. Can the force needed be calculated?

Yes, the force needed can be calculated using the formula F = BIL, where F is the force in Newtons, B is the magnetic field strength in Tesla, I is the current in Amperes, and L is the length of the wire in meters. However, this formula assumes that the conducting bar is moving at a constant speed and does not take into account factors such as friction and resistance.

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