Force of the track on a rollercoaster

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a roller coaster car's forces at the top of a loop. The context includes concepts of forces, energy conservation, and circular motion, specifically focusing on the downward force exerted by the track on the car when it is upside down.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Newton's second law and energy conservation to find the velocity of the roller coaster car and subsequently the force exerted by the track. Some participants question the distinction between net force and the specific forces acting on the car.

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The discussion is active, with participants clarifying the types of forces involved. There is a focus on understanding the difference between net force and the individual forces acting on the roller coaster car, particularly the normal force and weight.

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Participants are navigating the definitions of forces and their roles in the context of the problem, with an emphasis on ensuring clarity regarding the forces acting on the car at the top of the loop.

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a roller coster car of mass 1500 kg starts at a distance of H=23m above the bottom of the loop 15 m in diameter. if friction is negligible, what is the downward force of the rails on the can when it is upside down at the top of the loop?

so what i was thinking is this:

f=ma and in this case a=v^2/r so i have ...

f=mv^2/r and i know what m and r are so i need to find v

ei=ef
mgh=mgh+.5mv^2
1500(9.8)23=1500(9.8)15+.5(1500)v^2

v^2=156.8

then i put this into f=mv^2/r and f=3.14 x10^4


is that right?
 
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Note that f=mv^2/r gives the net force, but that you are asked to find the force of the rails on the car. (What other force acts on the car?)
 
the forces that act on the car are: normal force, weight, acceleration
 
Normal force and weight are the two forces acting on the car. Acceleration is not a force!
 

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