Force on a ferrous object inside a non-uniform magnetic field

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force exerted on a ferrous object within a non-uniform magnetic field, specifically when the field's magnitude decreases linearly. The participants confirm that ferromagnetic materials become magnetized in a magnetic field, allowing for the computation of induced currents using the curl of magnetization (M) and applying Lorentz's law to determine the force. Additionally, they mention the use of FEMM software for solving such problems and explore analytical methods involving magnetic potential and force calculations based on the gradient of magnetic permeability.

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Hello everyone!

I want to know how to compute the force applied on ferrous inside a non-uniform magnetic field, to make it easier, let's assume that the field direction is constant, and the magnitude decreases linearly.

Now, I know that ferromagnetic material inside a magnetic field will become magnetized, and once he become magnetized, I can compute the induced currents on the surface and inside the matter(curl of M, and Mxn, where M is the magnetization), and therefore I can use Lorentz law to compute the force.
Is that right to do this?

I saw that usually engineers using programs like FEMM to solve such problems, and I try to figure out how to solve it analytically

simple examples:
http://uzzors2k.4hv.org/index.php?page=magneticlevitation - the force applied should be similar to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_between_magnets#Force_between_two_cylindrical_magnets

simple problem:
assume we have an air-core solenoid produces a magnetic field(instead of the iron-core in the example), I want to know what is the minimum number of turns or the minimum current I need to pull a given iron cylinder (given distance from the solenoid, and given mass, and for simplify the problem I can assume that the cylinder is right in the symetric axis of the solenoid)
 
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OK, few thougths...
1.my first thougth about induced currents and lorentz law will not work here
2.If I will use the magnetic potential: μm=0.5⋅μ⋅H⋅H
I can compute the force by F=-∇μm

H is function of z, so F is also function of z. If I omit ellastic forces on the iron cylinder(can I? maybe tension?)
I will get: F=-∫∇μm between z1 and z2(z2-z1 is the length of the cylinder)

what do you think?
 
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