Induced current in a coil from a constant uniform magnetic field?

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The discussion centers on whether an induced current would flow through a solenoid coil placed in a constant uniform magnetic field when the coil spins around its central horizontal axis. Participants explore the conditions under which induced currents occur, referencing Faraday's Law and the movement of magnetic field lines relative to the coil.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that no induced current would occur when the coil spins around its horizontal axis, as the magnetic flux through the coil remains constant.
  • Another participant argues that if the core windings move through magnetic field lines, a current will be generated, emphasizing that there is no difference between moving the windings or having a moving magnetic field.
  • Some participants clarify that the solenoid spinning axially in a perpendicular magnetic field would not generate a current, although they note there may be a small effect depending on how the helix is closed.
  • A participant reiterates that, according to Faraday's Law, a changing magnetic flux is necessary to induce a current in the solenoid.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on whether spinning the coil around its horizontal axis induces a current, with some asserting it does not and others suggesting that movement through field lines could lead to current generation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific conditions that would lead to induced currents in this scenario.

Contextual Notes

There are ambiguities regarding the interpretation of the motion of the coil and its interaction with the magnetic field, as well as the specific conditions under which magnetic flux changes occur.

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Assume a solenoid coil(made up of ##N## windings) placed in the horizontal(##\hat{y}##) direction and in a constant uniform magnetic field.

Would an induced current run through the(closed) coil if it spins around its central horizontal ##\hat{y}## axis? My guess is "no", since such a current is generated only when a magnetic flux variation occurs(Faraday-Neumann law), and in this case, the flux through the coil stays exactly the same... but my textbook is quite confusing in this passage.

I anticipate your response(s) with another question:
- if the answer of the above is actually "no", then, how can a current be generated in the solenoid? Again, my guess is that in order to do so it should rotate around its vertical ##\hat{z}##(according to the reference chosen before) axis, causing an area and flux variation accordingly.
 
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greg_rack said:
Summary:: An ambiguous statement in my textbook gave me such a doubt

My guess is "no", since such a current is generated only when a magnetic flux variation occurs(Faraday-Neumann law),

If the motion of the core windings moves through field lines, a current will be generated.
There's no difference between moving windings or a moving magnetic field
The only requirement is that by either process, the windings move through (cross) field lines
 
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davenn said:
If the motion of the core windings moves through field lines, a current will be generated.
There's no difference between moving windings or a moving magnetic field
The only requirement is that by either process, the windings move through (cross) field lines
I don't think that is the question. If I understand, the solenoid is being spun axially (say y) in a field always perpendicular (say z) to that axis. So the answer is no. Except there will be a small effect depending upon how you "close" the helix back to the beginning.
 
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hutchphd said:
I don't think that is the question. If I understand, the solenoid is being spun axially (say y) in a field always perpendicular (say z) to that axis. So the answer is no. Except there will be a small effect depending upon how you "close" the helix back to the beginning.
Reading his Q, he seemed to have an overall confusion on when a current is generated or isnt

I have given him the why or why not, he can then apply that to his situation and then determine if
field lines are being cut or not and he will have his answer for his example :wink:
 
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greg_rack said:
how can a current be generated in the solenoid?
Per Faraday's Law, you need the amount of magnetic flux piercing the plane of the coils in the solenoid to be changing.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/farlaw.html

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Thanks guys!
 
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