Force on a Particle: Find Direction of Movement from Rest

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The problem involves determining the direction of movement of a particle subjected to two forces, where one force is significantly larger than the other. The context is rooted in classical mechanics, specifically Newton's laws of motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between net force and direction of motion, with some confusion about how to express the direction mathematically. There are attempts to calculate force components and net force, while questioning the implications of these calculations on the particle's movement.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring various interpretations of the forces involved and their effects on motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of Newton's Second Law and the relationship between acceleration and direction of motion. There is a focus on determining the angle of acceleration in relation to a reference line.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of vector components and their signs, as well as how to relate calculated angles to the coordinate system provided in the problem. There is an emphasis on the initial condition of the particle starting from rest.

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Homework Statement


In the figure, force FB has four times the magnitude of force FA. Find the direction in which the particle moves, if it starts from rest.
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I was a bit confused about what exactly my answer is going to look like. I can find the x and y components of FB + FA, but that would be the net force on the object, not its direction. Can I say the direction of the net force is the direction of the particle? How exactly does one say that? The direction is Px = ... and Py = ... does not seem sufficient.
 

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Don't forget Newton's Second Law. It gives you the direction of the acceleration. What is that direction?
 
Well, since all the forces that act on the particle are FA and FB and
FAx = FA cos theta = FA
FAy = FA sin theta = 0
FBx = -4FA cos theta = -FA (2.83)
FBy = -4FA sin theta = -FA (2.83)

(I used theta = 225 degrees because I drew FB in the third quadrant.)

then Fnet = (-1.83 FA)x - (2.83 FA)y
Fnet = ma, so
a = [(-1.83 FA)x - (2.83 FA)y ] / m

but is that even an answer? And I wasn't sure if I should just take FAx + FBx or FAx - FBx, since they're in opposite directions. But FBx is already negative to account for that, which is what I believe I did when I measured its angle from the positive direction of the x axis.
 
Can you specify the direction of the acceleration in terms of an angle measured counterclockwise with respect to the dotted line in the drawing? How is the direction of the acceleration related to the direction of motion if the particle starts from rest?
 
I can find theta, how interesting. I found theta equals about 237 degrees with respect to the dotted line. I don't know if I can relate that to the given coordinate system though- the particle is just moving down and to the left.
 
All you need to specify is theta counterclockwise with respect to the dotted line. If it is 237 degrees, isn't that down and to the left?
 

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